Caporegime
He's right, and they F'ed all of the trust and good will they had, for what?
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OcUK RX7900 series review thread
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He's right, and they F'ed all of the trust and good will they had, for what?
Soldato
I sway to the mention of wanting to ship something before xmas and to appease shareholders in that regard (i.e. rushed it out). What we dont know is did they know the problems and should have delayed a few weeks. What's interesting is the mention of they were able to deliver rdna3 a year after rdna2, so what were they sitting on all this time it is rather odd?
Caporegime
No, its not, the XTX RT performance is not "Rubbish"
But just as in raster its not as good as AMD said it would be, even in review guides, in the same games AMD guided lower than they did in their public slides, which was still over what the actual performance is, they fudged the numbers, an utterly crazy thing to do when you consider the truth would inevitably come out.
I don't get it, who makes decisions like this? Who takes the trust and good will they have earned from Ryzen and RDNA2, very hard earned trust over many years.... and just throws all that away? And for what? For #### Sake!
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Caporegime
If i was Dr Lisa Sue i'd be raging right now, absolutely boiling....
A launch delay would not have fixed the slides at the AMD presentation.
Its quite clear that the presentation slides should have read 6900XT and not 6950XT. If the slides said 6900XT there would not be a problem as the performance uplift numbers match.
You are only going to see a 56% performance uplift from a 6950XT in very specific circumstances but it looks like the Tier 1 7900XTX cards will get much closer if you throw power consumption out of the window.
No, a delay would not get the reference 7900XTX cards another 20-25% performance uplift across the board.
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Blaming the customer for thinking that other game's would perform like the 3 AMD cherry picked
I think it's a reasonable assumption from the customer to expect that more than a handful of cherry picked games would show something close to the advertised performance but according to Frank they should not have expected that, they should have known and expected that performance would be significantly lower in games AMD did not show, too bad of you play some of the other 20 thousand games that exist on PC
I think it's a reasonable assumption from the customer to expect that more than a handful of cherry picked games would show something close to the advertised performance but according to Frank they should not have expected that, they should have known and expected that performance would be significantly lower in games AMD did not show, too bad of you play some of the other 20 thousand games that exist on PC
They were waiting for nvidia to launch so they could set the price.
How did you turn the message explaining the difference into blame.
Soldato
Insinuating that we failed to read / understand "up to" in the charts.
AMD's pre-launch charts over the last few years have reasonably conveyed the general performance we could expect to see in the wild. Sure, they would throw some cherry-picked metrics in the same chart with lower, more typical numbers, but we got a reasonable range from their presentations. This time they went straight cherry-picking to mislead us. (And their investors)
*That* is where the question originated.
"Up to" he says. No **** Frank. You guys threw your credibility out the window and I doubt it will have been worth it.
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AMDs fault that most PC gamers continue to play old a.s.s games?
Soldato
Ahh, so AMD is taking Intel's GPU philosophy with performance now?
It's blindingly obvious someone is comparing wildly different data...
What kind of reply is he going to give besides pointing that out.
Soldato
Over the past few years with their product launches, that "blindingly different data" used to line up with the performance end users could expect in the wild. They burned that down this time.
He's just digging the hole deeper.
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If people are still playing old a.s.s games, then gpus like this will provide beyond the performance anyways.
My point still stands, it is the playerbase fault if they only play old games and buy the newest hardware and wondering why it doesnt uplift as they expected.
Maybe but from the looks of it, hardly anyone even noticed him tweet.
Soldato
I just bought a 4090 so that I could play Project Cars 2 in VR (night races). It has taken this long to get performance strong enough to do the job.
Nvidia didn't have the good will / trust that AMD built up over the last few years, so I knew not to expect 2-4x performance from Nvidia and waited for 3rd-party benchmarks.
AMD has now relegated themselves to the same bin.
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So you are playing a specific game in a specific scenario and apparently you are wondering why AMD aren't catering to you?
I hope you realise why Game devs treat PC gamers 2nd rate right?
Soldato
At least waiting for normal users results rather than the companies figures is the thing to do. If you jump in two feet first then once you go beyond the soga your stuck with it.
Caporegime
7900XTX vs 6950XT reality vs AMD's claims.
Watch dogs legions:
AMD claim +50%
Reality +36%
Call of Duty Modern Warfare II:
AMD claim +50%
Reality +43%
Cyberpunk:
AMD claim +70%
Reality +43%
You could argue Call of Duty Modern Warfare II is near enough, if one were charitable, i don't think it quite is, the other two a well down on AMD's claims.
If it was just one or two reviewers with results so far under AMD's claims then ok you could make the argument those particular reviewers are perhaps not entirely right, but TechSpot, AKA Hardware Unboxed are right in line with every other reviewer.
Frankly i'm surrprised none of these mainstream reviewers have given AMD a hard time over this, they don't think the card is that good, they have said that, but they haven't really pulled them up on this performance disparity between their claims and reality, perhaps this close to XMas they don't want to cause a poo storm, IDK, but i think AMD needs some pressure on them to explain themselves, people can #### up, its what you do after that which matters more, AMD could salvage some of that good will if they handle this properly.
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Review
The Radeon RX 7900 XTX is a pretty good GPU, at least relative to its GeForce competitor, but whether or not it's worth $1,000 will depend on...
www.techspot.com
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Caporegime
Frank is not doing himself or AMD any good, if i was his boss i would ask him to shut up.