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OcUK Ryzen 5 9600X and Ryzen 7 9700X review thread
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not all Intel chips are that badWaste of sand
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Its like the reviewers have to review others reviews just to make sure their reviews were wrong or right
Yeah just watching it now, he’s pretty much nailed exactly what’s going on.
Fair points, comparing to a 7700 has been mentioned though, I think? Never considered the cooler.
The 7700 does indeed almost match the 7700X (10fps 1080p average more for the X according to HUB)
HUB have covered the same topic here https://youtu.be/8qfvKX8ly2w?feature=shared&t=459
The 7700 does indeed almost match the 7700X (10fps 1080p average more for the X according to HUB)
HUB have covered the same topic here https://youtu.be/8qfvKX8ly2w?feature=shared&t=459
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I feel like they could squeeze a 9800X in here at 95w-105w (Overclockers Dream Edition) 
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I might be showing my age here but this generation seriously reminds me of sandy to ivy bridge.
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It definitely feels like one of the Intel minor jumps. Sky lake to Kaby lake would also be a good comparison.
Anyway let's examine why AMD is full of *****, and why people are angry
Exhibit 1: AMD says the 9700x is 31% faster than the 14700k in Horizon Zero Dawn
So how does the 14700k do in this game?
Exhibit 2:The 14700k has near identical performance to a 7950x in this game. So, if AMD is right then the 9700x should be 30% faster than the 7950x
Exhibit 3: The 9700x is 3% faster than the 7950x in HZD
Conclusion: We've now proven AMD's slides are not accurate, the 9700x is 27% slower in Horizon Zero Dawn than AMD claimed
Exhibit 1: AMD says the 9700x is 31% faster than the 14700k in Horizon Zero Dawn
So how does the 14700k do in this game?
Exhibit 2:The 14700k has near identical performance to a 7950x in this game. So, if AMD is right then the 9700x should be 30% faster than the 7950x
Exhibit 3: The 9700x is 3% faster than the 7950x in HZD
Conclusion: We've now proven AMD's slides are not accurate, the 9700x is 27% slower in Horizon Zero Dawn than AMD claimed
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They’ve been lying out of their teeth to a new level lately. What went under the radar is the launch of 5800XT and 5900XT where they straight up used a gpu bottleneck to show these zen3 parts are superior to RPL for gaming
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These CPU’s suck, are way overpriced and absurdly misrepresented in their competitiveness.
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Ryzen 9 5900XT Review: AMD Says Better For Gaming Than Core i7-13700K
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These CPU’s suck, are way overpriced and absurdly misrepresented in their competitiveness.
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Doesn't mention resolution? Or I can't see it
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Really weird behaviour on these chips. In traditional Windows based benchmarks Zen 5 barely moves the needle from Zen 4 but in Linux it Godzilla stomps over everything
https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-9600x-9700x/10 (checkout the database numbers as well)
It would be nice if someone from AMD could come out and explain exactly what's going on
https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-9600x-9700x/10 (checkout the database numbers as well)
It would be nice if someone from AMD could come out and explain exactly what's going on
I wonder if it's something as simple as windows scheduler is better at pushing multiple threads. Even in windows the 9000 series looks amazing in single threaded benchmarks, but then falls back in multithreading.
Though this is just a very uninformed stray thought. So I could be very wrong
Though this is just a very uninformed stray thought. So I could be very wrong
Using the 7900 XTX does make it far harder to find actual review figures to compare marketing vs reality 
Now, ComputerBase did have one review with both the RTX 4090 and 7900 XTX but mostly other games.
www.computerbase.de
Anyway, entered some of those figures into a spreadsheet:
There are normal marketeer lies and then there is this.
A few years ago AMD PR used to often understated, now they have lost all credibility between this and RDNA3.
Now, ComputerBase did have one review with both the RTX 4090 and 7900 XTX but mostly other games.
Gaming-Performance des Ryzen 5 9600X & Ryzen 7 9700X: Spiele-Benchmarks auf zwei verschiedenen Grafikkarten
Ryzen 5 9600X & Ryzen 7 9700X im Test: Spiele-Benchmarks auf zwei verschiedenen Grafikkarten / Gaming-Benchmarks mit einer GeForce RTX 4090
www.computerbase.de
There are normal marketeer lies and then there is this.
A few years ago AMD PR used to often understated, now they have lost all credibility between this and RDNA3.
Multithreaded benchmarks are far more influenced by the 65W TDP.I wonder if it's something as simple as windows scheduler is better at pushing multiple threads. Even in windows the 9000 series looks amazing in single threaded benchmarks, but then falls back in multithreading.
Though this is just a very uninformed stray thought. So I could be very wrong
At least in some benches:
AMD Ryzen 5 9600X und Ryzen 7 9700X im Test: Benchmarks in neuen Anwendungstests
Ryzen 5 9600X & Ryzen 7 9700X im Test: Benchmarks in neuen Anwendungstests
www.computerbase.de
Didn't see any other MT benches show such a huge difference but I was only looking at CB (because of the handy auto-calculating % bars) and TPU - and TPU is pages and pages of huge images with no filters or build-in calculators.
Maybe Microsoft should explain that one.
Using the 7900 XTX does make it far harder to find actual review figures to compare marketing vs reality
Now, ComputerBase did have one review with both the RTX 4090 and 7900 XTX but mostly other games.
Probably a treasure trove of YouTube ad revenue just waiting to be unearthed. Maybe I should become a celebrity YouTube tech journalists handler…