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haha @ that replay name. I often feel like that :P

edit: just watched the replay, certainly wasnt imbalance that lost you that game though.
 
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RobHu said:
haha @ that replay name. I often feel like that :P

edit: just watched the replay, certainly wasnt imbalance that lost you that game though.
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Agreed, double gas AND fast expand? That lost you the game right there. I would probably go so far as to say you cannot fast expand against terran at all, in any circumstances, in this game. Until they get nerfed (or the maps get made a lot bigger). Despite that colossal error, you still could have won the game. You could have dropped a templar archive down and probably still won. Feedback alone would have taken the sting out of his MMM. But 100/100 on hallucinate? ,

Still, you should see my replay folder it's pretty graphic :)
 
It's possible to 1 gate fast expand vs terran imo, but its hard enough to hold 3 raxx all ins on large maps with cross positions let alone on blistering. In bo1 games it's probably just not worth it.
 
RobHu said:
It's possible to 1 gate fast expand vs terran imo, but its hard enough to hold 3 raxx all ins on large maps with cross positions let alone on blistering. In bo1 games it's probably just not worth it.
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The way I see it, 6 marauders, stim and a drop ship can kill a nexus faster than you can kill the marauders.

Until you have aoe (Templars or colossi) spreading your (small army) thin isn't worth it. Unless the Terran expands earlier you're almost always better off fast teching to an aoe unit then taking an early expo. Maybe metalopolis far positions being an exception.
 
ever heard of kcdc's pvt FE?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142887

it's the only build that really works vs terran, and even then it's only a 50/50 chance. and yeah, i destroyed his army, but np cos he can rebuild another 1 in like 30 seconds.

sure he's a better player, he's higher ranked, played more games, even if he played zerg he had a good chance of winning...buuuut he plays terran so even if he was in silver league he had the same chance of winning.

at the end of the day, there is a minimum time for me to get gateways, cybercore, twilight council, templar archives, charge, storm, and khaydarin amulet.

i'm pretty sure that time is a teensy bit longer than the time it takes to make a few barracks, tech labs, and go: 3dddddddaaaaaaa, 1a, t, gg.

edit: lol rob posted the build in the post above as well :P
 
3 gate robo works fine against terran and it's way less risky. As long as you expand about the same time as he does you will be ok econ wise and not behind in army either.

But if you are going to do that fe build then you have to make sure you stick to the things that make it work - 1(!!) gas and chrono your gate constantly. Getting supply blocked at 18, cancelling your nexus when you dont really have to, building your first pylon late etc all set you back a bit which eventually adds up and loses you the game.
 
Minato said:
ever heard of kcdc's pvt FE?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142887

it's the only build that really works vs terran, and even then it's only a 50/50 chance. and yeah, i destroyed his army, but np cos he can rebuild another 1 in like 30 seconds.

sure he's a better player, he's higher ranked, played more games, even if he played zerg he had a good chance of winning...buuuut he plays terran so even if he was in silver league he had the same chance of winning.

at the end of the day, there is a minimum time for me to get gateways, cybercore, twilight council, templar archives, charge, storm, and khaydarin amulet.

i'm pretty sure that time is a teensy bit longer than the time it takes to make a few barracks, tech labs, and go: 3dddddddaaaaaaa, 1a, t, gg.

edit: lol rob posted the build in the post above as well :P
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I'll have a look at that build, but it just seems wrong to me. Will try it out and see what I can do with it :)

Minato: add me on bnet and we'll play some games. Watching you play and I feel like I see a lot of similarities to my own kind of play actually, so I think we could learn a bit off of each other. And take it to these 'terran punks' (no offense to terran players personally, just their sc2 race :P) :-)
 
kar said:
I'll have a look at that build, but it just seems wrong to me. Will try it out and see what I can do with it :)

Minato: add me on bnet and we'll play some games. Watching you play and I feel like I see a lot of similarities to my own kind of play actually, so I think we could learn a bit off of each other. And take it to these 'terran punks' (no offense to terran players personally, just their sc2 race :P) :-)
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surprisingly, if you pull it off you end up quite a ways ahead of the terran since you can basically have 6-8 gates and your choices of tech once the expo gets going. it relies on the terran being slightly passive though.

and hell yeah, let's do it.

although, wont most of our games be 4 gate vs 4 gate? :P
 
Minato said:
surprisingly, if you pull it off you end up quite a ways ahead of the terran since you can basically have 6-8 gates and your choices of tech once the expo gets going. it relies on the terran being slightly passive though.

and hell yeah, let's do it.

although, wont most of our games be 4 gate vs 4 gate? :P
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I've mostly shied away from 4 warpgates pvp now. I really enjoy phoenix play. I've found as my apm has gotten better, they are an increasingly viable opener.

Though if the pressure is on, or i've lost a few games in a row, I break out the one gas fast four bo :(
 
Milkybk said:
You can easily FE with 3 Rax as Terran without it being all-in.

I'm bored of the constant moaning from players about imba. You're more than likely just not as good as you thought.
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FE _as_ Terran, or against Terran? I don't think anyone would suggest a 3 rax build is an all-in either. Quite the opposite. That's why it's so strong.
 
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