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OcUK's Guarenteed to Overclock Processors are back

Tooks said:
My Q6600 has a VID of 1.325v too, and it clocks fine.

I don't think the VID is the ONLY thing that limits an overclock to be honest...
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What kinda speeds and at what voltages/temps are you running yours at and what motherboard? I have a theory that the motherboard you use has a factor to play as well becuase of vdroop, ocUK say you should have a Abit board to overclock the guaranteed to 3.3ghz chip maybe that says something.

My mate has a 1.30VID chip and he got his to 3.4ghz stable and he wasn't running uber high voltages but on a Asus P5B deluxe board. I`m using the P35-DS3L
 
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You know whats gonna happen now, as mentioned in other thread that some other store is doing pretty much the same.
Intel gonna put an end to this either by increasing their price and profit themself or limitng the fsb of the new chips to what they meant to run (if thats possible) so no1 can profit on their work for free.
 
nlel1975 said:
What kinda speeds and at what voltages are you running yours at and what motherboard? I have a theory that the motherboard you use has a factor to play as well becuase of vdroop, ocUK say you should have a Abit board to overclock the guaranteed to 3.3ghz chip maybe that says something.

My mate has a 1.30VID chip and he got his to 3.4ghz stable and he wasn't running uber high voltages but on a Asus P5B deluxe board. I`m using the P35-DS3L
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As per my sig really. Gigabyte P31-DS3L and OCUK 8500 RAM.

For 3.6Ghz, I need 1.425v in the BIOS, which comes out at just under 1.4v after vdroop.

For 3.2Ghz, where it is 24/7, it just needs 1.3625v in the BIOS, which is 1.312v after vdroop.

No other voltages (FSB etc) tweaked at all, everything left where it is.

Mine's under water, so load temps are approx 50c after a twelve hour orthos run. That would be higher under even decent air for sure, but not that much that it would be unstable.
 
Tooks said:
As per my sig really. Gigabyte P31-DS3L and OCUK 8500 RAM.

For 3.6Ghz, I need 1.425v in the BIOS, which comes out at just under 1.4v after vdroop.

For 3.2Ghz, where it is 24/7, it just needs 1.3625v in the BIOS, which is 1.312v after vdroop.

No other voltages (FSB etc) tweaked at all, everything left where it is.

Mine's under water, so load temps are approx 50c after a twelve hour orthos run. That would be higher under even decent air for sure, but not that much that it would be unstable.
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Well that blows my theory that the VID had a lot to do with overclocking potential, but you have to agree there are good and bad chips, yours appears to be quite a good one mine is the worst kind and as it appears it has little to do with the VID.

I was quite surprised when my mates 1.30VID chip did 3.4ghz stable and thought it was down to the motherboard but I guess he got a good 1.30VID chip.

None of this takes away from the fact that by buying a guaranteed chip you could get one like mine which is poor for anything over 3ghz and as they are not hand picked or tested whats the difference between a guaranteed to 3ghz chip and a guaranteed to 3.3ghz chip apart from the guaranteed speed.

As they are not hand picked you could get a bad chip esp if you buy a guaranteed for 3.3ghz chip becuase if you buy a guaranteed for 3.0ghz chip and it only does 3ghz easily then you can't complain.
 
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nlel1975 said:
Well that blows my theory that the VID had a lot to do with overclocking potential, but you have to agree there are good and bad chips, yours appears to be quite a good one mine is the worst kind and as it appears it has little to do with the VID.

I was quite surprised when my mates 1.30VID chip did 3.4ghz stable and thought it was down to the motherboard but I guess he got a good 1.30VID chip.

None of this takes away from the fact that by buying a guaranteed chip you could get one like mine which is poor for anything over 3ghz and as they are not hand picked or tested whats the difference between a guaranteed to 3ghz chip and a guaranteed to 3.3ghz chip apart from the guaranteed speed.

As they are not hand picked you could get a bad chip esp if you buy a guaranteed for 3.3ghz chip becuase if you buy a guaranteed for 3.0ghz chip and it only does 3ghz easily then you can't complain.
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Aye, there are definately good and bad chips out there.

I suppose the relevant point to this debate is that EVEN the so called 'bad ones' should do at least 3Ghz...
 
nikebee said:
No, I don't own a Guaranteed overclock CPU. I bought mine back in November.

That said, I wouldn't have bought a Guaranteed Overclock CPU if there was an option as I wouldn't have been roped into that.
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When I bought mine from a competitor I was under the impression that all Q6600 G0s had a VID of 1.225v so was expecting to get a chip that could do the marvelous 3.4ghz "on air" and I had seen bandied about.

When I first tested it I quickly realised it failed in Prime95 very quickly even at 3.2ghz stock volts, then I tried 3.0ghz and that failed, I gradually upped the volts to 1.38125v BIOS where 3.0ghz was stable.

Furthing testing has made me realised that even 1.41 real (1.50 BIOS) and the chip is not stable at 3.2ghz. It appears this has little to do with the VID as previous poster had different results to mine with a 1.325VID chip.
 
Tooks said:
Aye, there are definately good and bad chips out there.

I suppose the relevant point to this debate is that EVEN the so called 'bad ones' should do at least 3Ghz...
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Yeah the bad ones, like mine still do 3ghz with a little extra voltage. So whats the point of the guaranteed to 3ghz offer??

Whats the point of the guaranteed to 3.3ghz offer when nothing is really guaranteed except a replacement if you decide to report yours as not capable of 3.3ghz, in which case ocUK will say have you tried 1.50 REAL?

The kinda temps you get at 1.50 REAL don't bear thinking about.
 
nikebee said:
No, I don't own a Guaranteed overclock CPU. I bought mine back in November.

That said, I wouldn't have bought a Guaranteed Overclock CPU if there was an option as I wouldn't have been roped into that.
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Exactly, there is no need to buy one and everyone knows it, the only people who maybe don't are the ones that were going to be exploited because of their lack of knowledge.
 
Slinwagh said:
Exactly, there is no need to buy one and everyone knows it, the only people who maybe don't are the ones that were going to be exploited because of their lack of knowledge.
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I bought a guaranteed to 866mhz P3 650 about 8 years ago becuase I thought guaranteed mean't it was guaranteed to run at 866mhz.

The word guaranteed gave me the impression that the chip had been pre-tested to 866mhz and was found to be stable. What I actually got was a chip that didn't run at 866mhz and I had to send it back, the replacement worked as originally intended.

This left a bad taste in my mouth as I thought ocUK had pre-tested the chips and that was what we were paying a premium for, it turns out I could've bought a non-guaranteed chip and my chances of getting a good one were the same which shouldn't have been the case.

The only good thing about buying the guarenteed chip is that if you complain and thats a big if, you are likely to recieve what you paid for the 2nd time. I was almost so horrified when it happened to me that I nearly kept the poor chip originally sent - it did 806mhz.
 
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nikebee said:
Indeed it would mate.

Speed increase would be proportionate to what you are doing though.


tomshardware release a comparison webpage each year for the major processors

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=881&model2=871&chart=425

It would all depend on what res you game at, but that link will give you a rough idea.
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I generally game at all max settings using my 24" Screen.....Just not sure if I would notice the difference in real world terms :confused:
 
Next up, the e2160/2180/2200 price hike, guarenteed to run at atleast 2.8ghz for an extra £50.....

I think this has gone too far, if people want to overclock, point them in this direction............
 
I think this is a good idea tbh. Peace of mind is worth some extra £.

Only concern I have is if 'joe blogs' cant get 3.3gig on mobo X using guaranteed chip, then returns it with an RMA. If ocuk then test it and it runs at 3.3 fine on mobo Y what happens then? Will they test on mobo X?
 
ramdor said:
I think this is a good idea tbh. Peace of mind is worth some extra £.

Only concern I have is if 'joe blogs' cant get 3.3gig on mobo X using guaranteed chip, then returns it with an RMA. If ocuk then test it and it runs at 3.3 fine on mobo Y what happens then? Will they test on mobo X?
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If said chip runs at 3.3ghz on ocUKs motherboard they have proved the chip can run at 3.3ghz and have therefore supplied what was ordered, the customer will then be left to either keep the chip and replace motherboard or keep the chip and run at lower speed.

I can't see ocUK giving refunds in this situation.
 
I'd rather just buy a "normal" CPU, overclock it to what it can do and be happy with my saved pennies.
I'm sure there'll be plenty of returns and moaning, people will love the courier return prices and lengthy delays whilst they wait to get a replacement "guaranteed" chip.
 
nlel1975 said:
If said chip runs at 3.3ghz on ocUKs motherboard they have proved the chip can run at 3.3ghz and have therefore supplied what was ordered, the customer will then be left to either keep the chip and replace motherboard or keep the chip and run at lower speed.

I can't see ocUK giving refunds in this situation.
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Yeah, perhaps chip/mobo/memory/cooler combo would be a safer idea.

Thinking about it more, what happens to any possible guaranteed chip rma return failures? Would they get put into oem stock or just disposed of? Meh, nightmare :s
 
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