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OcUK's Guarenteed to Overclock Processors are back

Yeah, perhaps chip/mobo/memory/cooler combo would be a safer idea.

Thinking about it more, what happens to any possible guaranteed chip rma return failures? Would they get put into oem stock or just disposed of? Meh, nightmare :s

Yeah its entirely possible that someone at some point will get sent a chip that just doesn't do 3.3ghz easily (ocUK don't pre-test the chips remember) I know they exist as I have one.

In this case I guess ocUK will accept returns of these chips for replacement, either that or they will suggest you put 1.50 REAL thru them first (which for temperature reasons is not a reasonable suggestion).

What then happens to these failed chips is anyone's guess, I guess they would end up as non-guaranteed chips in B grade.
 
Yep. As long as they are identified as oc'ing failures then there is nothing to worry about.

Yeah once a Retail CPU has been returned there is no way ocUK could send it out again as brand new, and I seriously doubt they would then sell it as OEM.

The good thing about buying a "guaranteed" chip is that you have the guarantee of getting a good chip eventually. When buying such a chip you should take into account the costs of having to return a poor one(s) if recieved.

When buying a normal chip you have no honest way to return a poor overclocker. What happens though when you return a chip and are sent another brand new one and that fails to clock acceptably, how many times are you expected to return poor chips.

If they don't ever test for the best ones how are they going to have a stock of good chips to send out as replacements.
 
"Use of this guide for any other hardware is not recommended and no liability will be accepted for any damage caused by the miss-use of information provided in this guide".

Is it ok to mr-use and a mrs-use the guide?

:p
 
not only are these CPU's back but so is this thread, What happened to the last thread on this topic, all 8pgs of it.... hmmm sherlock
 
Mine is the worst Q6600 GO you can get, a 1.325VID chip. It does 3.0ghz with just a very small voltage increase 1.38125v in BIOS. I use the stock cooler and get temps of up to 77C (Prime95 17 hour run).

Same here - Q6600 G0, 1.325 VID and I need a BIOS setting on my Gigabyte board of 1.38125v to have it Prime stable 24hrs at 3.0Ghz. Temps however are fine - around 60C under full load on Coretemp, with a Freezer 7 Pro. I never had any intention of going over 3Ghz anyway, so it doesn't concern me in the slightest.
 
It's not a bad idea at all. For those who have never overclocked before, not only do they guarantee to get a get a cpu that will hit the said speed but they get technical support for it aswell. Peace of mind and a reliable source of help.

You say "come to these forums for help' etc but a lot of people wouldn't waste their time signing up to ask questions or request help. Too many people are jumping down throats for 'stupid' questions, bad grammar and spelling errors etc. Theres generally too many rude people who think the world revolves around them and anyone who lacks the knowledge they have are retarded.

On top of that you also get the people who think they know everything, talk utter crap and deep down they know jack all.

Not everyone though, there are some nice and helpful people around. It's not just this forum either, it's the same on basically 99% of pc related forums going.

So to clarify, not everyone wants to have to deal with the wrong-uns that lurk around forums and some people don't mind paying a few extra quid for a bit of peace of mind. If you don't like what OCuK are doing, don't buy one, simple. Yet another thread plagued with gun-jumpers and people 'assuming' rather than thinking. I bet some of you here could write a cracking novel :p
 
i though it was a good thing, just a bit pricey, but if it sells, then what can we say.....there are to many non enthusiast.

the only problem is, this has been spotted elsewhere, and been copied, but guaranteed to run at 3.30 with no extra cost on the original Q6600 GO, and a pdf OCing guide made free aswell.....

the consumer wins again. and its all down to the inovativeness of OcUK. thanks :)
 
I certainly would not buy an OEM cpu from ocuk after reading this. God knows what sort of things have been done to them, at least the retail boxed ones you know nooone had messed with as they come sealed ( well they should do anyway ). What happens to the returned cpus that people couldnt get to overclock? they arent going back to the supplier so they have to be sold? as OEM i bet....

The deletion of the other thread is very VERY dodgy indeed. Whats the story there i wonder?

EDIT: I wont delete the above as its already been quoted but i will say that my wording came across stronger than i meant it to. Im not suggesting ocuk would knowingly sell returned cpus as "new oem". I am curious as to what happens to chips sent back that the user cant get to overclock. They arent faulty from an intel point of view but they are faulty from a consumer point of view as they paid extra for the overclockability. So is the chip faulty or not? and what can it be resold as.... a return? a second user? returned faulty but not really? :)
 
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I certainly would not buy an OEM cpu from ocuk after reading this. God knows what sort of things have been done to them, at least the retail boxed ones you know nooone had messed with as they come sealed ( well they should do anyway ). What happens to the returned cpus that people couldnt get to overclock? they arent going back to the supplier so they have to be sold? as OEM i bet....

The deletion of the other thread is very VERY dodgy indeed. Whats the story there i wonder?

You are aware what OEM means? Just because an item is OEM dosen't mean OcUK or anything can flog something that's second hand as a new OEM item :confused:
 
You are aware what OEM means? Just because an item is OEM dosen't mean OcUK or anything can flog something that's second hand as a new OEM item :confused:


Exactly my point. So what do they do with returned cpus that didnt overclock? chuck em in the bin? Unless there is a number of "B-Grade" boxed cpus in the clearance section id be asking just where the returned ones end up!

Im not suggesting that OcUK do in fact sell second user items as new, but it begs the question of what they will do with cpus that get returned because they wont overclock. These cant be sold as new boxed so they are gonna have to be sold at clearance and so ocuk loose money. Sort of makes the whole exercise a bit pointless if they have to pay postage costs for the "faulty" item to be sent back ( faulty as in wont overclock ) AND also take a hit on the price as they try to get rid of it. Places i have worked for HAVE resold returned items as brand new and not thought about it for a second so i know from personal experiance that it does happen, which makes me ask the question.

( and yes thanks i know what OEM is, ive worked in the business for years ;) )
 
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( and yes thanks i know what OEM is, ive worked in the business for 15 years ;) )

Then don't make daft and unfounded accusations :p

Yes they would go into clearance as b-grade if they where returned.

But to be honest a) sales on them probably aren't going to be that high and b) the number that won't overclock with such a modest overclock is going to be pretty small.
 
Then don't make daft and unfounded accusations :p


Its not daft from my viewpoint as like i said above i have seen this practice done before in more than one place ive worked for, and the deletion of the other thread in dubious circumstances makes it very far from unfounded. Let me make it clear that i am NOT suggesting that this is being done, what i am asking is what happens to the ones that get sent back.

Like i say im not accusing them of anything but id be interested in hearing what they have to say on the matter of returned "faulty" chips that are in fact fine but wont overclock. I cant see them being happy to take a knock on the cost just because someone cant do an overclock. Are the chips only promised to be overlclockable on specific mainboards and memory? from the description it doesnt appear so. The description just says a "capable" board. So if you send a chip back and they test it and say "no its fine and overclockable on our kit" where do you stand?

I just honestly dont see what they have to gain from this at all, its likely to end up being a pain in the rear end for the returns dept when loads get sent back as inexperianced users cant get them stable enough.
 
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Its not daft, and the deletion of the other thread in dubious circumstances makes it very far from unfounded.

Like i say im not accusing them of anything but id be interested in hearing what they have to say on the matter of returned "faulty" chips that are in fact fine but wont overclock. I cant see them being happy to take a knock on the cost just because someone cant do an overclock. Are the chips only promised to be overlclockable on certain mainboards and memory? from the description it doesnt appear so. So if you send a chip back and they test it and say "no its fine and overclockable on our kit" where do you stand?

I was under the impression they are only guaranteed an Abit IP35 Pro or whatever its called? Could be completely wrong though.
 
I was under the impression they are only guaranteed an Abit IP35 Pro or whatever its called? Could be completely wrong though.


it says " on the basis you also purchase an uprated CPU cooler and have a capable mainboard and memory such as the Abit IP35 Pro and Crucial Ballistic PC2-8500 1066MHz Memory. "

"Such as" means that you can use any board and memory that is similar does it not?.

Thats what i mean, there is too much scope to blame the end user for not getting the overclock. So you send it back and get told its fine, what happens then?

Having worked in returns for over 6 years i can just honestly see this costing them more in time and man power than they will make in extra profits. Users phoning up and moaning that they cant get it to overclock, cpus flying backwards and forwards from the customer to the returns and back and arguements over rights and wrongs. Keeping one person busy for even 15minutes on a single RMA caused by someone not being able to overlock it wipes out the small extra money they got by selling it in the first place.

Think of it this way; Mr smith buys a cpu thats sold as being able to overclock to 3ghz. He has a suitable board and ram and psu/cooler as described in the sales blurb.

He cannot however get the thing running stable at 3ghz so he phones up and complains. A member of staff has to spend time talking him through the usual stuff to make sure hes doing it all right.

This member of staff is now using his time unproductively and is therefore costing the company money all the time he isnt doing his other work.

In the end the customer is given an RMA and sends back the "faulty" product. The company is of course going to have to pay for the returns postage cost if the item is faulty. The RMA gets back and is duly tested, again costing the company money in the form of man-hours.

The cpu is then either deemed faulty, if the tester cant get it to run stable at 3ghz, or not faulty because he can.

This then leads to yet more time sorting the replacement ( and costs again to ship the new one out ) or costs more time from a member of staff who has to contact the customer and tell him its NOT faulty and deal with the ensuing arguement and so on.

All this of course is only if the user cant get the overclock stable and to their satisfaction. Lets say you will get the problem like this with 1 in 4 chips sold ( very likely when dealing with all the variables of overclocking ).

The company made an extra £15ish per chip so thats £60ish extra for 4. A single RMA will cost a couple of man hours to fully process from start to end if you include time on the phone talking to the customer and extra workload packing and shipping etc etc. If the postage back to the company and then the replacement back to the user is factored in then a 1 in 4 failure rate will negate the extra profit gained in the first place quite easily. In fact it could end up costing more if everything was factored in.



( my god ive just realised what time it is and why ive been arsed to type all this.... blame mass amounts of coffee and the fact ive been ill and been in bed for about 3 days and have a totally shot body clock! :( )

By selling it as a gauranteed overclockable chip you sort of make extra problem for yourself, where as a normal returned chip either works or it doesnt ( or is easy to test for stability as stock settings ) testing a chip thats sold as being able to perform above its rated spec adds in extra time for testing, as well as extra scope for arguement ( and extra time ) over the faultiness or not of the chip!.
 
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I have a 1.325vid G0 chip and it's running at 3.6ghz! So I'm sure every other chip will do 3ghz without a problem..... and probably less volts than mine at stock!!!
 
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