***Official 2010 F1 thread***
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we mite get a british 1-2 next year then
I'm sure the FIA will come up with some mid season rule to makesure that doesn't happen and fine them 40 million.
So Button's car will be #1 and Hamilton's car will be #2? That's my understanding of it. The WDC takes the first two numbers to whatever team he drives for.
Heh, without a doubt.
Heh, without a doubt.
Thats correct. I guess McLaren are happy that the #1 is staying on one of their cars.
Strangely having drivers #1 and #2, they will be the 3rd team down the pitlane
As I work it out...
#1 Button
#2 Hamilton
#3 Vettel
#4 Webber
#5 Rubens
#6 (Rubens Teamate)
#7 Rosberg
#8 Heidfeld
#9 Trulli (if still racing)
#10 (Trulli's teamate)
#11 Alonso
#12 Massa
etc...
Im probably way off with those anyway
Blimey, quite a lot of hatred for Button in this thread, which is quite bewildering.
Not only is he British, he's the current world champion, hasn't cheated, and comes across as a decent bloke. He's never thrown any hissy fits, and doesn't display any diva tendencies either, which is quite unlike the 'spoilt brat' Hamilton. I'm sure you all remember his childish behaviour when the McLaren was driving like a dog at the start of the season.
I think it's typical British attitude to moan and whinge about our own home grown talent. I'm not a fan of Lewis, but was genuinely happy and proud that he won the championship.
Not only is he British, he's the current world champion, hasn't cheated, and comes across as a decent bloke. He's never thrown any hissy fits, and doesn't display any diva tendencies either, which is quite unlike the 'spoilt brat' Hamilton. I'm sure you all remember his childish behaviour when the McLaren was driving like a dog at the start of the season.
I think it's typical British attitude to moan and whinge about our own home grown talent. I'm not a fan of Lewis, but was genuinely happy and proud that he won the championship.
Fair play to button for taking on a huge challenge, rather than be a schumacher and cherry pick team mates and quit when the first decent one joins your team.
Nice one Brawn, telling the press this morning that you doubted Mclaren talks were that advanced and you get caught out. Left with Drosberg and Mr Average.
Mercedes wanna hope they haven't got a great car next year with the line up they have.
Looking at it from buttons point of view he highly doubted he would ever win a title, he has achieved that and he also knows there are only two teams that have consistently won in the last 15 years.
He will also know better than anyone Mercs/Brawns resources and how run down morale is. Yeah they won a title but most people are also motivated by money and I dont expect many of them in the factory were too happy to lose a promised bonus last year.
The right move, as I have said all along. He has nothing to lose.
Nice one Brawn, telling the press this morning that you doubted Mclaren talks were that advanced and you get caught out. Left with Drosberg and Mr Average.
Mercedes wanna hope they haven't got a great car next year with the line up they have.
Looking at it from buttons point of view he highly doubted he would ever win a title, he has achieved that and he also knows there are only two teams that have consistently won in the last 15 years.
He will also know better than anyone Mercs/Brawns resources and how run down morale is. Yeah they won a title but most people are also motivated by money and I dont expect many of them in the factory were too happy to lose a promised bonus last year.
The right move, as I have said all along. He has nothing to lose.
your head is so far up hamilton's **** i'm surprised you can see how any of the other drivers are doing
I still think Schumacher can have a part to play in all this, he has quit in his advisory role at ferrari so is basically a free agent.
Granted he's a 41 year old that's been out of F1 for 3 years, but he's seen how much he missed driving when he was testing for Massas' seat. Plus Mercedes being German it would be a huge PR coup for them..
I do miss Schumacher in F1, I always preferred him in inferior cars as he gave it his all. Would be good to see him for one last season to see if he can still cut it.
Granted he's a 41 year old that's been out of F1 for 3 years, but he's seen how much he missed driving when he was testing for Massas' seat. Plus Mercedes being German it would be a huge PR coup for them..
I do miss Schumacher in F1, I always preferred him in inferior cars as he gave it his all. Would be good to see him for one last season to see if he can still cut it.
Best post I've read in a long time. Couldn't agree more. What IS wrong with Button? He's cool, laid back, friendly and when the car goes wrong he doesn't behave like a kid who's just had his Playstation taken away from him *ahem Lewis ahem*
Really don't understand all of the bashing either, it's like he's claimed to be the best F1 Driver of all time or something - if he had said that I could understand it but no, he's probably the most humble and modest bloke on the grid - ok he took a wage increase with his new signing but he bloody well deserves it.
And yeah I do remember those post race interviews of Lewis' when his car was gash, quite embarrassing really, I thought a few times he was literally going to cry.
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IF button beat Hamilton next year, Sunama would still play it down like Hamilton had 9 months of flu or Button had been playing Gran Turismo for longer and wouldn't let Hamilton have a go.
I expect Button to do well. He's got a major confidence boost, he's done well given the cars he's driven in the past and made the most of his situation this year. The pressure got to him, no doubt about it, but the same pressure has consumed Hamilton when he was i nthe same position. The time in between starting F1 and winning a title has nothing to do with it IMO, experience does count for many things in life and Button clearly has done it in the right order but F1 does require you to be in the best car to win a title and drivers of modern F1 illustrate this very well.
I still think Buttons a sell out and would be better staying at Brawn, but like Fisichella to Ferrari, I bet a McLaren drive will be a dream come true in some ways.
I'm a big Button fan on and off the track and feel his pairing with Hamilton should be a great test of his ability and an entertaining season. At least Button isn't a smug git miserable Alonso who seemingly helped tear the McLaren team down over issues that neededent have been known.
I expect Button to do well. He's got a major confidence boost, he's done well given the cars he's driven in the past and made the most of his situation this year. The pressure got to him, no doubt about it, but the same pressure has consumed Hamilton when he was i nthe same position. The time in between starting F1 and winning a title has nothing to do with it IMO, experience does count for many things in life and Button clearly has done it in the right order but F1 does require you to be in the best car to win a title and drivers of modern F1 illustrate this very well.
I still think Buttons a sell out and would be better staying at Brawn, but like Fisichella to Ferrari, I bet a McLaren drive will be a dream come true in some ways.
I'm a big Button fan on and off the track and feel his pairing with Hamilton should be a great test of his ability and an entertaining season. At least Button isn't a smug git miserable Alonso who seemingly helped tear the McLaren team down over issues that neededent have been known.
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And your head is clearly up Button's ****, preventing you seeing how any other driver is doing.
ooh touche
- actually my head will now be up both their arses as I'm now a Mclaren fan! One of my customers I remember is a mad mclaren fan, had towels on her wall and everything! Would be interesting to go around and fix her PC again, be some chat, as last time I was saying how I was a brawn fan
I have stated earlier in this thread that if Button wins the title, then I will hail him as one of the greatest drivers I have ever seen.
I've already stated that Hamilton is likely to break all sorts of records, as he grows older and this is simply a matter of time. So, if Button can beat Hamilton in his debut season with McLaren (something that even Alonso failed to do - a driver I rate as No.1 in F1 right now), in a car designed for Hamilton, with Hamilton getting preferential treatment, no one will be able to argue against Button's sublime skill. I mean, that achievment would put him very close to MS (no joke).
But lets not get carried away, the odds of Button finishing even close to Hamilton (in the final points standings) are very low and IMO what is likely to happen is that Button will slot comfortably into the No.2 role (people forget that Button is ultra reliable who made virtually no mistakes in 2009 and regularly brings the car home in respectable positions...this makes him the near perfect No.2 driver). I Button can help McLaren win the constructors title, then it'll be a job well done.
I think 2010 should be a very exciting season, assuming that Ferrari and McLaren can both produce competitive cars. A lot of things happened this year that have never happened before and I feel that 2010 should see normal service resume.
Jenson's take on facing Hamilton:
"Would I fancy my chances against him? Well every driver would, every driver wants to show to themselves more than anyone else how good they are."
Button believes that you have to be willing to go up against the best drivers in the world in equal machinery to prove yourself in Formula 1.
"We all think we are up there with the best of them, but when you look at it you don't know if you are better than someone else unless you are racing against them in the same car," he said.
"You can say you are the best in the world and you can feel you are the best in the world but you never know until you go head to head with them."
"Would I fancy my chances against him? Well every driver would, every driver wants to show to themselves more than anyone else how good they are."
Button believes that you have to be willing to go up against the best drivers in the world in equal machinery to prove yourself in Formula 1.
"We all think we are up there with the best of them, but when you look at it you don't know if you are better than someone else unless you are racing against them in the same car," he said.
"You can say you are the best in the world and you can feel you are the best in the world but you never know until you go head to head with them."
Button isn't a sell out.
Button for the first time in his career is showing real ambition and is putting his entire reputation on the line. Going head to head with Hamilton is a huge gamble that could make or break his credibility as a leading F1 driver.
You'll remember a few years ago I used to call Button a journeyman, happy to pick up pay cheques and finish at the back of the grid. His move to McLaren is a clear indication that in 2010, this is absolutely not the case. I don't think any other top line driver would have the balls to go up head to head like this (that includes Alonso or Vettel).
Many of you don't quite understand just what Button has done by moving to McLaren - he is putting EVERYTHING on the line. For this I have nothing but respect for the guy.
What d'you mean "a few years ago"? You were pretty much saying that less than a year ago.