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Doesnt CFD mean that teams can test parts virtually rather than having to spend time and money making bits, and also be able to run multiple tests simultaneously, faster, and probably more accurately than in a wind tunnel? I also imagine a server farm to run multiple CFD instances is a hell of a lot cheaper to build and run than a number of wind tunnels?
CFD sounds like an excellent idea to me. Especially if the FIA get their way on there plans to limit wind tunnel use (or do they limit it already?)
CFD sounds like an excellent idea to me. Especially if the FIA get their way on there plans to limit wind tunnel use (or do they limit it already?)
FIA also want to limit CFD capability too.
Really? Why?
Its a cheaper and more accessable technology than wind tunnels, which fits nicely with their aim to cut costs?
Also, limiting the use or capability of anything electronic or virtual is going to be a nightmare. Atleast with a wind tunnel you cant physically do any more than run it with 1 model in it 24/7.
Because it's still very expensive. Supercomputers aren't cheap.
They were kicking around the idea of a standard supercomputer a while ago.
Pics of Massa cheating, sorry, testing today at Mugello - http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/12/16/massa-completes-f2007-test-pictures/
CFD and wind tunnels compliment each other. It is very quick and easy to make small changes to a wind tunnel model and measure the results whereas resolving the CFD solution (and possibly remeshing) is very expensive in time.
CFD is very good for exploring design spaces where the computer can be left to run optimisation type analysis, something that is very difficult to do with physical models.
The iphone F1 timing app is reduced in price - £17.99 for next season - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=39705
looks really good and i wanted to get it last year but dont think i can justify the price.
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Especially when you can get it for free (albeit on your PC) from the F1 website.
Ralf providing the entertainment in the news again - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...umacher--also-considers-comeback-1852853.html
I want
Better get an iPhone first though 
Who on earth with a competitive car would risk Ralf? Who on earth would risk him at all? Hes better off outside of F1.
oh no, what is he going to introduce.
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=47583
yes you are right since the mid 90's it has turned from development that could be used in other industrys to just pure publicity that is the problem..
Although this could be promising.
Could we see what I've been saying for the last year or two. that electric, hydrogen and basically any other green fuel should be allowed in the regs even if teams don't use them for a few years. It means real practical development that can be used else where will come back into the sport.
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=47583
yes you are right since the mid 90's it has turned from development that could be used in other industrys to just pure publicity that is the problem..
Although this could be promising.
Could we see what I've been saying for the last year or two. that electric, hydrogen and basically any other green fuel should be allowed in the regs even if teams don't use them for a few years. It means real practical development that can be used else where will come back into the sport.
Yup. And take the gloves off KERS. With no refueling, KERS could be doing what KERS does best - improve fuel efficiency - if they'd let it.
Indeed. With no refuelling efficiency become critical. An efficient car could start the race 20kg lighter. Unfortunately with the engines locked down we aren't able to significantly improve the efficiency. An unrestricted KERS could be the answer - without having to design new engines which would be too expensive.
yep. all they would have to do is no charge on starting. Then teams could do what they want. more power but less time on the button, less power more time on the button. Heavy kers breaking which will recharge system more but unbalance the car. Or as you say, use it for normal acceleration and thus save fuel and require less for the race. Although if it malfunctioned you would run out of fuel. Again this is technology car companies could develop and put in their road cars.
So which races, if any, is anyone planning on going to? I've been to Silverstone twice but fancy going abroad for one this year. Maybe Spa but I don't want to 'miss' one of my favourite races by actually being there, the coverage on TV is much better for actually seeing the race, you just don't get the atmosphere. Where would everyone recommend?
the only thing the site does is the live timings, the app shows a track with every char going round so u can see were everyone is and lotsof other stuff.