***Official 2010 F1 thread***

[clv101]

And if the big teams would have agreed to a budget this would not be happening.

Indeed, they all need a big slap and to admit the Max has been right all along. Way back in 2004 ish Max was banging on about the unsustainability of F1, its inability to withstand an economic/oil shock, its need to reinvent itself to be more relevant to a new less affluent and more environmentally aware world... did anyone listen? No.

Max was fundamentally right and all he get was flack.

 

[arknor]

surely ferrari arent scared of those "lesser" teams they are whining about? are they scared incase all the noobie teams beat them?

 

[JRS]

Hold on Ferrari you said the same thing when a team called McLaren came into F1 did you not.
And look at them now

Did they? When? Can you point me to a source?

 

[tonyyeb]

surely ferrari arent scared of those "lesser" teams they are whining about? are they scared incase all the noobie teams beat them?

No. These news teams do not add any credibility to F1 as the average fan will no know who they are (except Lotus and as said by the PR they are not the same Lotus team that took part in F1 previously). Plus Ferrari would prefer to beat big teams like Toyota, BMW and Honda, rather than Manor, Campos etc...

I bet Ferrari would prefer Aston Martin (Prodrive) in instead of any of the other new entrants. I know I would.

 

[LizardKing]

F1 is about racing not some big company with an agenda (BMW, toyota etc), i for one welcome these lesser teams!
Lets not forget Ferrari started out this way.

 

[tonyyeb]

Lets not forget Ferrari started out this way.

I agree everyone has to start somewhere but Ferrari are who they are because of the history.

 

[Wicksta]

Renault not committing to 2010 just yet:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80031

Sounds ominous.

 

[stockhausen]

Renault is the only manufacturer team left in Formula 1 following the exits of Honda, BMW and Toyota in the last 12 months.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80031

Ferrari don't manufacture cars

 

[tonyyeb]

Ferrari don't manufacture cars

I thought that.

 

[Over Clocker]

"Founded by Enzo Ferrari in 1928 as Scuderia Ferrari, the company sponsored drivers and manufactured race cars before moving into production of street-legal vehicles in 1947 as Ferrari S.p.A.. Throughout its history, the company has been noted for its continued participation in racing, especially in Formula One, where it has enjoyed great success."

 

[PinkFloyd]

"Founded by Enzo Ferrari in 1928 as Scuderia Ferrari, the company sponsored drivers and manufactured race cars before moving into production of street-legal vehicles in 1947 as Ferrari S.p.A.. Throughout its history, the company has been noted for its continued participation in racing, especially in Formula One, where it has enjoyed great success."

Someone has been playing Forza3

 

[Over Clocker]

Someone has been playing Forza3

Eh? What's Forza?

That's from Wikip...!

 

[PinkFloyd]

Facts like the above pop up on the loading screens in Forza3. I'm sure its the exact same wording!

 

[FrankJH]

I thought about the same FM3 link - it is the same wording

 

[stockhausen]

Renault is, together Ferrari, the only full manufacturer team left in Formula 1 following the exits of Honda, BMW and Toyota over the last 12 months.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80031

They have fixed it . . . pity about the English . . . useless bloody unpaid interns . . .

 

[deuse]

Did they? When? Can you point me to a source?

I will try and find it mate when I have time later.

 

[JRS]

I will try and find it mate when I have time later.

Cheers deuse

Lets not forget Ferrari started out this way.

Ferrari "started out" in Grand Prix racing by operating the Alfa Romeo works team, effectively. Once the Formula One World Championship started they were one of the full-blown grandee Italian manufacturer teams alongside Alfa and Maserati.

If you want to see real hypocrisy, examine the WilliamsF1 stance on customer cars....

 

[sunama]

If you want to see real hypocrisy, examine the WilliamsF1 stance on customer cars....

Tell me more.

 

[JRS]

Tell me more.

Got their start in F1 running March customer chassis, Ford DFV engine, Hewland (I think?) gearbox, and now oppose the use of customer chassis completely.

***edit***

Actually, thinking about it - maybe even a customer Brabham for Piers Courage before the March days.

 

[stockhausen]

Got their start in F1 running March customer chassis, Ford DFV engine, Hewland (I think?) gearbox, and now oppose the use of customer chassis completely.
...

What ARE you on about