***Official AMD Mantle Thread***

[Mei]

nude bits ><

 

[shankly1985]

I am sure it will be sweetly smooth for you Matt, and I assume you will be running it on a Freesync monitor so you can experience G-Sync like smoothness like I do?

When FreeSync does Drop it will be even better than Gsync.. One Simple feature sets them apart..

 

[thebennyboy]

When FreeSync does Drop it will be even better than Gsync.. One Simple feature sets them apart..

The fact that one won't be subsidizing Jen-Hsung's Lamborghini?

 

[LtMatt]

When FreeSync does Drop it will be even better than Gsync.. One Simple feature sets them apart..

FreeSync will complete the set.

FreeSync and Mantle is an exciting proposition.

Low level API's and a solution to screen tearing.

Soon.

 

[savagesam117]

What games can you use VSR in? I see it about and it's in CCC but can't find a game it works on? or is this my monitor going no?

 

[shankly1985]

The fact that one won't be subsidizing Jen-Hsung's Lamborghini?

The choice of freedom over your Frame rate! This alone is massive to me..

Do you have Freesync enabled plus Vsync? Frame rate cap out at 144hz or refresh rate.

Do you have Freesync enabled but with vsync disabled? Frame rate now can go over refresh rate with screen tear but when drops down below the refresh rate Freesync will kick in..

Option two is what i'll be running.. This alone is what I always wanted.. Adaptive-Vsync almost done it but sadly switching Vsync back on made the game stutter and input lag..

 

[shankly1985]

What games can you use VSR in? I see it about and it's in CCC but can't find a game it works on? or is this my monitor going no?

Every game so far I tried it work on.. You enable it in CCC then in game video setting select the resolution you want.

 

[Uncle Petey]

What games can you use VSR in? I see it about and it's in CCC but can't find a game it works on? or is this my monitor going no?

Use it in any game, unless you're at 4k or using 21:9.
Just change the resolution in the game menu.

 

[savagesam117]

Use it in any game, unless you're at 4k or using 21:9.
Just change the resolution in the game menu.

I'm only at 1080p, every time i do the screen goes all funny

 

[Uncle Petey]

Funny how?

 

[Avenged7Fold]

FreeSync will complete the set.

FreeSync and Mantle is an exciting proposition.

Low level API's and a solution to screen tearing.

Soon.

Add in true audio into the mix and you have the perfect recipe for smooth immerse VR.

I hear that AMD are working with Oculus, i wonder what they have planned?! (Overly hopeful for VR)

 

[savagesam117]

Funny how?

Don't worry, i was being blonde.. Damn, it doesn't like it a lot though.. The FPS drop is mad, i can't really see much difference either?

 

[Uncle Petey]

Really? I never saw too much of an fps drop with most stuff.
Visual improvement really depends on what you're playing tbh. Games like Alien and Assetto Corsa worked really well for example.

 

[savagesam117]

Really? I never saw too much of an fps drop with most stuff.
Visual improvement really depends on what you're playing tbh. Games like Alien and Assetto Corsa worked really well for example.

BF4 on ultra just playing single player, i had to drop the AA right down to get solid 60 FPS. After playing a little more it does look a lot better tbh.

 

[Uncle Petey]

In BF4's case, you could just use the in game scaler for the same results or higher anyway. VSR isn't required here

 

[Orangey]

edit: ignore

I found my answer reading this:

http://community.amd.com/community/...g/2015/03/02/on-apis-and-the-future-of-mantle

 

[Gregster]

AMD's Mantle 1.0 is dead; long live DirectX

AMD’s Mantle “1.0” is dead. Long live Mantle 1.0.

After just a year and a half, AMD appears to be sunsetting its “revolutionary” original Mantle gaming API as we know it, according to a blog post written by Raja Koduri, VP of Visual and Perceptual computing at AMD.

“...f you are a developer interested in Mantle “1.0” functionality, we suggest that you focus your attention on DirectX 12 or GLnext,” Korduri writes.

Korduri said AMD will no longer release Mantle 1.0 as a public SDK as originally intended, which many will take to mean that that is the end of it as an alternative to DirectX12 and the new OpenGL standards. As a consolation prize, AMD did release a 450-page programming guide the company hopes will stimulate better APIs down the road. The company also said it would continue to support any Mantle partners with its full resources.

Battlefield 4
One of the more high profile games that helped boost Mantle was Battlefield 4 support.

If this sounds like Mantle’s swan song, that’s not entirely clear. What is clear is Koduri and AMD want developers to move from Mantle “1.0” to DirectX or the new OpenGL. He doesn’t say Mantle is finished, and he even says it will continue on.

“Mantle must take on new capabilities and evolve beyond mastery of the draw call. It will continue to serve AMD as a graphics innovation platform available to select partners with custom needs,” he wrote.

Korduri said more information on where Mantle is headed would be made public this Thursday at the Game Developer’s Conference in San Francisco.

Where Mantle goes from here isn’t clear—perhaps as a private label API for developers who want cutting edge features DirectX and OpenGL can’t provide, or test beds for new features. But it was unlikely to fulfill its original mission anyway. AMD announced the new API in the fall of 2013 to address inefficiencies in Microsoft’s DirectX11 and OpenGL. And Mantle’s most promising feature was addressing OpenGL and DX’s inability to use CPU cores very effectively—something that DirectX should do much better in its latest version.


Mantle 1.0’s biggest legacy will be improved draw calls for better gaming performance.

Despite the low odds that an API developed by only one of the hardware markers would go very far, AMD actually racked up a fairly impressive number of wins including Battlefield 4. AMD said today that there are five game engines and 10 premium games or applications that support Mantle 1.0.

Without the support of its arch-rival Nvidia though, it was never destined to become the default API of choice, even with the interest of Intel at one point.

If this is the obit for Mantle though, it did succeed in changing many things. At the time Mantle was sketched out, Microsoft had no plans to develop DirectX 12, which, for the most part has addressed the CPU inefficiency Mantle did. OpenGL is also expected to modernize to keep relevant with DirectX12 and Mantle.

The CPU efficiency issue isn’t the only drawback Mantle addressed that looks to be addressed by competitors. Mantle also sketched out fixes for multiple GPU systems that could be adopted too. In DirectX11, having two video cards with 4GB of RAM doesn’t give you 8GB of graphics memory to work with because of the way the API is designed. With Mantle, AMD has said, it’s different: multiple cards would not need to mirror each other’s RAM, so 8GB of graphics RAM could be used more efficiently.

Tom’s Hardware recently reported that a similar feature would be implemented in DirectX 12. AMD, Nvidia and Microsoft officials declined to comment.

Why this matters: If this is the end of Mantle 1.0 as we know it, it will have achieved what it needed to do—and that’s get Microsoft and OpenGL’s Khronos to finally move forward and faster on graphics APIs that have been holding back PC gaming.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2891672/amds-mantle-10-is-dead-long-live-directx.html

So no public SDK as promised by AMD

 

[RichardH754]

GoodBye Mantle, Nice Knowing You!

 

[~Mike~]

Not surprised really.

Why this matters: If this is the end of Mantle 1.0 as we know it, it will have achieved what it needed to do—and that’s get Microsoft and OpenGL’s Khronos to finally move forward and faster on graphics APIs that have been holding back PC gaming.

 

[Orangey]

So no public SDK as promised by AMD

Nice troll.

Mantle’s definition of “open” must widen. It already has, in fact. This vital effort has replaced our intention to release a public Mantle SDK, and you will learn the facts on Thursday, March 5 at GDC 2015.

Things change.