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Looks ok 
And you have no idea what settings that is running at, console or pc?
And you have no idea what settings that is running at, console or pc?
I have to say I am with Deadbeat on this one. Deus Ex is about gameplay, not graphics. Would rather they completely nail the story and gameplay like Deus Ex 1 and play with below par graphics than have best graphics in the world that can run on a 8800 gtx because its so optimised.
Plus it's so obvious that those are not PC graphics, so why get knickers in a twist?
Plus it's so obvious that those are not PC graphics, so why get knickers in a twist?
I have to say I am with Deadbeat on this one. Deus Ex is about gameplay, not graphics. Would rather they completely nail the story and gameplay like Deus Ex 1 and play with below par graphics than have best graphics in the world that can run on a 8800 gtx because its so optimised.
Plus it's so obvious that those are not PC graphics, so why get knickers in a twist?
But why are you asking for one or the other? They aren't exclusive. It's not like having a better engine, higher res textures or longer spent on models takes away time spent on the story/gameplay aspects of the game. They're all worked on by seperate people/teams so what has putting effort into making it look nice got to do with making satisfying gameplay? Absolutely nothing.
People seem to think that time spent on a game gets put into one or the other, because they have to take time away from one to spend on the other. That's not how development teams work. Occasionally companies think they can rely on a pretty engine for lackluster gameplay, but the game always flops when this is the case. There's no excuse for the game to look sub-par.
You also say it's obvious they aren't PC graphics, as if it makes a difference? Do any of the console ports, Mass effect, Dead Space, Arkham Asylum, CoD etc. really look that much better than their console counter-parts? No, and you usually can't tell the difference unless comparing them side by side.
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I have to say I am with Deadbeat on this one. Deus Ex is about gameplay, not graphics. Would rather they completely nail the story and gameplay like Deus Ex 1 and play with below par graphics than have best graphics in the world that can run on a 8800 gtx because its so optimised.
Plus it's so obvious that those are not PC graphics, so why get knickers in a twist?
This, Its all about the gameplay as long as they nail that right then i wont even notice the graphics.
Because a game that looks great and plays like crap is still a crap game. A game that plays great and looks decent will only get people whining who think games MUST have perfect scores in both, everyone else will just play it.
I agree, those screenshots don't look brilliant, but they look a damn sight better than DA2 looked in the demo.
You say its not a tradeoff... it clearly is. Remember that even though the people doing them have different jobs, they all need paying. If you want to keep costs down spending 50% more on graphics means less on gameplay. Sure its an oversimplified example but it keeps with the current reality of devs cheaping out on games to keep development times and costs down *cough* Activision and EA *cough* in order to get the game out asap and make more profit without giving a **** as to the quality.
And don't forget we still play Deus Ex which looks pretty bad these days.
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I can only offer up the previous examples of DS2, ME2, AA, to show but a couple recent examples of console ported games with decent graphics and fantastic gameplay. All look far better than what i've currently seen of DE3 ingame (including those ss above), and I wouldn't consider any of them to be anywhere near cutting-edge aesthetically.
A game doesn't need perfect in both, but why not have both to a high standard. Instead of a game that looks great and plays poorly, or a game that plays fantastically but looks mediocre - how about a game that looks nice and plays gloriously.
Whilst I'm at it, I'll throw in that the UI looks dated and the menus looks consolified.
- I'll most likely be proclaimed a troll for such claims, which is bizarre seeing as this was my most anticipated game for 2011, and still is one of them - but I'm dubious.
I can only offer up the previous examples of DS2, ME2, AA, to show but a couple recent examples of console ported games with decent graphics and fantastic gameplay. All look far better than what i've currently seen of DE3 ingame (including those ss above), and I wouldn't consider any of them to be anywhere near cutting-edge aesthetically.
A game doesn't need perfect in both, but why not have both to a high standard. Instead of a game that looks great and plays poorly, or a game that plays fantastically but looks mediocre - how about a game that looks nice and plays gloriously.
Whilst I'm at it, I'll throw in that the UI looks dated and the menus looks consolified.
- I'll most likely be proclaimed a troll for such claims, which is bizarre seeing as this was my most anticipated game for 2011, and still is one of them - but I'm dubious.
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As the years go by, you school yourself into not getting overly excited about games before they are out, but this time, I have truly failed. The tears of frustrated disappointment await!
I think the graphics look fine, but as has been said, we don't know what platform/settings/anything really yet. I'm far more concerned about actual "content".
I'm not expecting Deus Ex again, but a beefier DE2 would be great. Past all the crying and moaning about DE2, it wasn't a bad game.
oh and Deus Ex wasn't a pretty game even in it's day, the voice acting wasn't exactly mind boggling either. But the content and story took it into history as one of the best games ever made, and rightfully so.
I think the graphics look fine, but as has been said, we don't know what platform/settings/anything really yet. I'm far more concerned about actual "content".
I'm not expecting Deus Ex again, but a beefier DE2 would be great. Past all the crying and moaning about DE2, it wasn't a bad game.
oh and Deus Ex wasn't a pretty game even in it's day, the voice acting wasn't exactly mind boggling either. But the content and story took it into history as one of the best games ever made, and rightfully so.
I am a bit dubious too but thats going by gameplay footage itself rather than the graphics. Yes it would be a crying shame if the graphics weren't the same high standard as other high profile releases but it wouldn't actually make me dislike the game.
Soldato
From the movement of the character in game, you can tell it's a console video.
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You don't understand what HD is because that's an example of a low resolution picture.
(Of which has also been compressed for streaming and then for converting to a crap .jpg)
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Just want to start by saying I respect and understand where you are coming from. But if I thought like that mate, I would never be happy about 99% of the games out there and would be finding holes and ways to criticise them.
This is why I try not to look at pictures or videos of the game much if I am really interested in playing it when it comes out. So far what I have seen does not alarm or bother me. All I care about is that they get the story and gameplay right. They do that and I am happy even if it looks like a PS2 game. Sure, they should have a high standard and make it look as good as other recent games, but maybe for some reason they cannot/will not.
For starters I would have to say your wrong in saying there is no difference between console ported PC games. At the bare minimum you get higher res AA AF and higher frames to go with it. If you look at Dragon Age 360 vs PC there is a difference, if you can't see it then, well...
I am willing to bet that the final product on the PC will have better graphics than in those pics.
I could easily reply to you line by line, point by point, but that will take ages. It would lead into reply wars. In the end that's your point of view and this is mine. Would rather go play a game
oh and this...
I can go compress that further in jpeg and make it look like a PS2 game if you want. lol.
Just wait for reviews and demo or something. Chill
Go on then, do it. Compress it to roughly the same size, post a comparison and we'll all marvel about how right you were - we can all boycott DE3 because it looks pap in comparison to a game in which I have no interest in playing.
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Typical fanboy mantra, can't handle criticisms on the game he's so eagerly waiting for. Nobody mentioned boycotting anything, except yourself. I even said it's one of my most anticipated titles, but I'll take you up on your challenge because you're an idiot. Whether or not you intend to play the game has no bearing.
I took 3 screen grabs from another 720p video, with similar shots showing armour, clothing textures and character/enviroment textures. Feel free to marvel.
