*****Official Deus Ex 3: Human Revolution discussion thread*****

[madindehead]

Eidos Montreal game director Jean-Francois Dugas admits to problems with the AI in Deus Ex: Human Revolution, in speaking with Play magazine about the action/RPG sequel that was released yesterday in North America. "I'd be lying if I said the AI meets all of our expectations but I think it's normal that every developer has something they'd like to do differently," he said. "That being said, when you look at the type of game we're making, where stealth and combat need to cohabit as naturally as possible, I think overall gamers will be satisfied with what we did. It's not perfect but it makes for interesting gameplay situations.

So, what he is really saying is, the AI isn't as perfect as we would like, because of the choices we had to make to make stealth and full assault work equally well in the game.

"Problems" would mean that the AI is buggy and broken. Which is isn't from what I've seen so far. The start of the comment is a little bit misleading.

 

[Evilsod]

Well, I died for the first time and my whole PC froze up with a really annoying buzzing noise... if that is what happens when you pick hard difficulty and die then I better not die again

"This is Deus Ex! When you die, Daedalus takes over your system and reboots it as punishment"

 

[Bleek]

Where the hell are melee weapons, from what I can see its projectile/guns or sneak only?

Yes you can sneak up behind an enemy and use the 'cut-scene' take-downs but, I want a bloody knife - literally!

 

[Limenote]

Random question but how is the soundtrack on this? Just heard this song and it's one of the most epic songs i've heard in a while:

that music MADE the trailer so amazing, really great, deffo getting this on friday!

 

[Evilsod]

Where the hell are melee weapons, from what I can see its projectile/guns or sneak only?

Yes you can sneak up behind an enemy and use the 'cut-scene' take-downs but, I want a bloody knife - literally!

Indeed, genuine melee weapons would be great though it seems they replaced them with takedowns and Jensens armknifeblades.

The takedown animations are laughable. Theres the odd 1 that is decent but many more that would result in your 'silent' takedown making the guy scream his lungs out and alerting everyone in a 5 mile radius.

That music is too epic.

 

[madindehead]

Indeed, genuine melee weapons would be great though it seems they replaced them with takedowns and Jensens armknifeblades.

The takedown animations are laughable. Theres the odd 1 that is decent but many more that would result in your 'silent' takedown making the guy scream his lungs out and alerting everyone in a 5 mile radius.

That music is too epic.

Yeah, the takedown animations are the only thing I don't really like

Still, the takedown is handy And at least it pops you back into crouch if you attacked from crouch. A melee weapon would be cool, but the stun gun is AWESOME! As is the tranq sniper is you have time to use it

 

[Bleek]

I've yet to find the stun gun, damn it!

 

[Evilsod]

If you tell the boss man you'll be focusing on non-lethal close combat he gives you 1.

Problem with the stun gun is if you're close enough to use it you're close enough to use takedowns which get you 10 more exp ><

My favourite takedown is the 1 where he taps the guy on the shoulder then punches them in the side of the head, quick and effective

 

[compboyo]

URGENT HELP NEEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!

game wont install!!

I have to install steam then put in activation code and I get this message

''DXHR can not be installet yet, becuase it is not released yet''

WTF!!! Help

 

[dubs]

Not getting on with the tranq rifle, either my aim is really bad or its
just takes more than one dart to drop them.

Tempted to start again and get the stun gun.

 

[Hunders]

Unless you hit them in the head it takes a few seconds for them to go unconscious.

 

[Duff-Man]

URGENT HELP NEEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!

game wont install!!

I have to install steam then put in activation code and I get this message

''DXHR can not be installet yet, becuase it is not released yet''

WTF!!! Help

As the error message suggests, the game is not released yet in the UK.

Either wait until the release (midnight tomorrow), or try setting up a VPN to fool Steam into thinking you're in the US (see earlier in the thread).

 

[dubs]

Unless you hit them in the head it takes a few seconds for them to go unconscious.

Hmmm may give it one more go tonight before giving up on it totaly

 

[madindehead]

If you tell the boss man you'll be focusing on non-lethal close combat he gives you 1.

Problem with the stun gun is if you're close enough to use it you're close enough to use takedowns which get you 10 more exp ><

My favourite takedown is the 1 where he taps the guy on the shoulder then punches them in the side of the head, quick and effective

Stun gun has pretty good range actually. Good for round corners etc.

The first one you get is from the boss, if you say non-lethal close combat. And I found the other one. You need level 4/5 hacking (can't remember) and it's inside Sarif headquarters that's all I'll say

The tranq rifle is decent if you have time to use it, ie. from long range Also, better with the better software. But yes, it does take a second or two for them to get knocked out

 

[compboyo]

As the error message suggests, the game is not released yet in the UK.

Either wait until the release (midnight tomorrow), or try setting up a VPN to fool Steam into thinking you're in the US (see earlier in the thread).

so why the hell they sending out copies early, making me get all excited to preorder and get ASAP when in reality i cant play it lol wtf

 

[Pighardia]

Playing through the original again in preparation for the hundedth time, but first in around 5 years and i'm finding it almost impossible to kill anyone stealthily. I don't remember it being this difficult before. I don't know if it's just that the AI has aged and i have really noticed it or there is something wrong but i am finding it impossible to do many of the missions stealthily

Really hyped up for this game now

 

[ChrisJSY]

so why the hell they sending out copies early, making me get all excited to preorder and get ASAP when in reality i cant play it lol wtf

Did you read at all from where you bought it? On steam it'll say released at 00:01 Friday morning.
Noticing a few differences from the leak, not much.. still early days, no hacking tools so far and had so many, unless they removed it from the hardest difficulty.

 

[madindehead]

Did you read at all from where you bought it? On steam it'll say released at 00:01 Friday morning.
Noticing a few differences from the leak, not much.. still early days, no hacking tools so far and had so many, unless they removed it from the hardest difficulty.

Not seen any so far on the middle difficulty. Only seen one place so far I could really do with it though.

Not a big issue for me now, as my hacking is maxed out. And once you get a few nuke and stop worms, you're ok for most things. Most of the mission critical stuff has codes or is level 2 maybe 3 max.

 

[Evilsod]

Playing through the original again in preparation for the hundedth time, but first in around 5 years and i'm finding it almost impossible to kill anyone stealthily. I don't remember it being this difficult before. I don't know if it's just that the AI has aged and i have really noticed it or there is something wrong but i am finding it impossible to do many of the missions stealthily

Really hyped up for this game now

You referring to deus ex? The hitboxes have always been dodgy. You can hit someone square in the back/head and they'll turn around and shoot you or they'll collapse to the ground.

Max melee, run silent and muscle enhancement are great though. You can sprint around behind targets, knock them in the back of the head and continue sprinting without anyone being aware.

 

[Pighardia]

You referring to deus ex? The hitboxes have always been dodgy. You can hit someone square in the back/head and they'll turn around and shoot you or they'll collapse to the ground.

Max melee, run silent and muscle enhancement are great though. You can sprint around behind targets, knock them in the back of the head and continue sprinting without anyone being aware.

I am finding the stealth pistol and crossbow are completely useless, as i need at least 3 shots to kill/incapacitate someone. I'm sure it wasn't like that last time i played, maybe i've just been bumping the wrong stats. I'm fairly early on, so i've still got time to increase skills. I made the cardinal error of spreading my skill points too thin over all of the stats.

Looks very good indeed with New Vision and ENB series though.