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Elixir said:
Midas on a carry ench is not that bad depending on how the game is going, it's more about the faster XP than the gold.
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How exactly can enchantress carry? Get a bkb and she is useless.

Spend 20 mins afk woods to get aghs, while your team plays 4v5, loses towers, gives up kills and the enemy cores buy big items of their own.

Any game where you win with a "carry" in woods is a game you would have won easier with a roaming support.
 
Murray said:
It takes like 30 minutes to break even with midas :p

Its overrated on a lot of heroes, thats 2000 gold that could have been used to buy a mek, forcestaff, blink dagger, etc
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But dude. it gives you 30 attack speed! Winner winner chicken dinner

Tokenbrit said:
How exactly can enchantress carry? Get a bkb and she is useless.

Spend 20 mins afk woods to get aghs, while your team plays 4v5, loses towers, gives up kills and the enemy cores buy big items of their own.

Any game where you win with a "carry" in woods is a game you would have won easier with a roaming support.
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Enchantress can be a good source of secondary damage. She is more a semi-carry but still :)
 
Tokenbrit said:
How exactly can enchantress carry? Get a bkb and she is useless.

Spend 20 mins afk woods to get aghs, while your team plays 4v5, loses towers, gives up kills and the enemy cores buy big items of their own.

Any game where you win with a "carry" in woods is a game you would have won easier with a roaming support.
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Not sure where I implied you should stay in woods and do nothing... you can farm up a midas and still be pushing towers by 10 minutes. When I say carry I do not mean #1 role, she's a semi-carry at best, but the damage output is insane and BKBs don't last forever.

Don't confuse bad enchantress players with enchantress being a bad carry, it's like saying natures prophet jungle is bad because some people just afk cliff jungle for 30 minutes.
 
Elixir said:
Not sure where I implied you should stay in woods and do nothing... you can farm up a midas and still be pushing towers by 10 minutes. When I say carry I do not mean #1 role, she's a semi-carry at best, but the damage output is insane and BKBs don't last forever.

Don't confuse bad enchantress players with enchantress being a bad carry, it's like saying natures prophet jungle is bad because some people just afk cliff jungle for 30 minutes.
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http://dotabuff.com/heroes/enchantress
 
Murray said:
It takes like 30 minutes to break even with midas :p
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Also, it takes under 18 minutes to break even assuming you use it every available CD. Then there is the fact you level up much faster

edit: I've seen the math that states 30 mins. It subtracts the gold value of the creep you kill but I think thats a flawed way to look at it. With the midas you can nip to the jungle and take a big creep or push the lane much faster - either way you farm faster than auto attacking the creep down
 
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Now lost 9 of the last 13, terrible at the moment and I'm not really playing well myself.

Won the last game before bed last night though, another good game as SS he can be brutal with a chicken, ult, stun combo.
 
Everyone is bad thinking you go midas ench and win the game. She quite clearly has the best win rate this month with bloodstone pick ups. That's why you should afk and not gank or do anything that an ench should do because you can only farm or gank, there is no in between.

Midas is good if you get off to a good start, if you get first blood or a few early lane kills you've secured lane dominance and ench doesn't just tickle with an agh.

Also next time someone thinks about linking dotabuff as justification for an argument, please go 1v1 Anuraj so he has someone to beat.
 
M0NSTER said:
Everyone is bad thinking you go midas ench and win the game. She quite clearly has the best win rate this month with bloodstone pick ups. That's why you should afk and not gank or do anything that an ench should do because you can only farm or gank, there is no in between.

Midas is good if you get off to a good start, if you get first blood or a few early lane kills you've secured lane dominance and ench doesn't just tickle with an agh.

Also next time someone thinks about linking dotabuff as justification for an argument, please go 1v1 Anuraj so he has someone to beat.
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ok pro
 
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