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I'm notorious I know but I didn't do any item recommends beyond the initial, was messing with team mainly.

Good tips and I added that he would want to invest in mana boots and mek to assist too.

I'll try join too but a bit tighter for time this evening.
 
The USA and EU hubs have been announced for the international. Sounds like they will both be broadcasting all the qualifiers, but this means I don't know who to watch!

The US hub has:
Aaron "Ayesee" Chambers
Ioannis "Fogged" Loucas
Troels "syndereN" Nielsen
David "LD" Gorman
David "GoDz" Parker
Shannon "SUNSfan" Scotten
Andrew "Zyori" Campbell
Bryan "kpoptosis" Herren
Cameron "Basskip" Scott
Travis "Maut" Bueno
Ben "Merlini" Wu

EU is being hosted by the GD studio, and will feature:
Andy 'Draskyl' Stiles
Toby 'Tobiwan' Dawson
David 'Lumi' Zhang
Jorien 'Sheever' Van Der Heijden
Austin 'Capitalist' Walsh
Ted 'Pyrion' Forsyth
Shane 'Shaneomad' Clarke
Bruno 'Bruno' Carlucci
James '2GD' Harding
Jess 'Ruckus' Brohard
Salome Soe 'Soe' Gschwind-Penski
Jacob 'Maelk' Toft Andersen
Rickard 'Skrff' Holm-Melin
Johan 'Weppas' Westberg
Niklas 'Wagamama' Högström
 
Cannot stand Tobiwan, he doesn't know what he is talking about and just constantly screams. He also appears to have his mic much louder than any co-commentator he sits with, which is pretty shady if you ask me.

Sheever is half bearable if only interviewing players before the games start.
 
Give me a pm tomorrow on steam and I will play a game or two. Should be on from 6pm

Musty Pie I watched 10-15 mins of that with No1newts.

Not sure if these were recommended to you but in that game I wouldn't have gone Dagon, bit of a wasted item and you only got it to level 1. Aggs would have been better if you were going greedy seeing as you guys were constantly team fighting.

Building a Pipe of Insight would have been good also since they had a Zeus with aggs/refresher

3 of the enemy had shadow blade but no-one in your team was buying sentrys or dust. You could have helped with both and your team mates all should have had dust also.

Thanks for that mate.

Yeah like I said my knowledge of items, what is effective, and what to use against who is pretty much none existent at the moment. I am still trying to get the actual mechanics of the game down before I get to in depth into all of that.

Example: I only learnt about the usefulness of wards last night, and didn't even know you could get/use sentry's etc or even what dust is... /dota2noob

Like I said I have LOADS to learn, and its going to take some time. I just want to make sure I can at least be useful support and not be a team burden until I start to learn the more tricky stuff.

I will add you this evening if I get chance, although I might not get to play tonight as I have a few games of squash to play tonight.
 
Thanks for that mate.

Yeah like I said my knowledge of items, what is effective, and what to use against who is pretty much none existent at the moment. I am still trying to get the actual mechanics of the game down before I get to in depth into all of that.

Example: I only learnt about the usefulness of wards last night, and didn't even know you could get/use sentry's etc or even what dust is... /dota2noob

Like I said I have LOADS to learn, and its going to take some time. I just want to make sure I can at least be useful support and not be a team burden until I start to learn the more tricky stuff.

I will add you this evening if I get chance, although I might not get to play tonight as I have a few games of squash to play tonight.

Totally understandable, when I first started playing I was just a sheep that did what he was told. There was just too many things to learn all at once so chose a few of the game mechanics and concentrated on developing those, such as ward placement, checking the mini map for missing heroes etc.

I only had a very basic understanding of the items and didn't fully understand why this particular item was recommended or why it was such a large benefit to my hero.

Take a common support item such as "Mekanism"

Bonus HP Regen in an area.

Multiple instances of Mekansm Aura do not stack.
Bonus Health Regeneration: 4
Radius: 750

^ So for every hero in a 750 radius of yourself gets 4hp a second regen. Not huge but nice if you can pick this item up in the early/mid game.

Also the headdress part of the item gives +3hp a second, so if you carry a mek you gain 7hp a second, which is pretty nice in the early game.

Not only that but just from carrying this one item you get:

+5 Strength
+5 Agility
+5 Intelligence
+5 Armor

To gain all of these stats on one inventory slot fantastic.

Now the most important part of this item in the early/mid game. When you activate the item every friendly hero in a 750 radius gets 250 hp and +2 armor. This is huge if you can pick up Mek early enough.

Biggest problem is not forgetting to actually use the item! Which I still do from time to time, or being to greedy to use the item in time. Lion probably isn't the best Mek holder but if you tried other hard support heroes and practiced rushing mekanism and concentrated on activating the item at the correct times, it would be invaluable.

The more you play and the more time you spend breaking down what the recommended items do, it will eventually just all click into place. Then you can start experimenting and trying new things. There is no shame following some hero guides with the suggested item progression.
 
Understood.

I used a Mek last night and started to see its benefits, but I bought it too late in the game. Will try farm gold to get it earlier.

My issues with Lion (at the moment) are Mana regeneration. I try and channel the creeps but my team end up killing them for gold and as such when I need mana for a stun I sometimes fall short.
 
Understood.

I used a Mek last night and started to see its benefits, but I bought it too late in the game. Will try farm gold to get it earlier.

My issues with Lion (at the moment) are Mana regeneration. I try and channel the creeps but my team end up killing them for gold and as such when I need mana for a stun I sometimes fall short.

^ Indeed and this is one of the main reasons Mek on Lion is not recommended because it costs Mana to use the active Mek ability.
 
Understood.

I used a Mek last night and started to see its benefits, but I bought it too late in the game. Will try farm gold to get it earlier.

My issues with Lion (at the moment) are Mana regeneration. I try and channel the creeps but my team end up killing them for gold and as such when I need mana for a stun I sometimes fall short.

Early game just use 3rd skill on everything you can every chance you get, even if you have full mana. Really screws some heroes up if they're permanently on zero mana, and keeps you well stocked.

I find so long as you ignore the creeps and mana regen on the back one as soon as the wave appears everything goes fine, Early game people can't kill them all quick enough to stop you from regening, and late game you should be looking much better on your mana total anyway. I've got 13 wins 1 loss as lion now, so i like to think my tactics must be going right somewhere :p Albeit i do only play in a noob tier :D
 
Early game just use 3rd skill on everything you can every chance you get, even if you have full mana. Really screws some heroes up if they're permanently on zero mana, and keeps you well stocked.

I find so long as you ignore the creeps and mana regen on the back one as soon as the wave appears everything goes fine, Early game people can't kill them all quick enough to stop you from regening, and late game you should be looking much better on your mana total anyway. I've got 13 wins 1 loss as lion now, so i like to think my tactics must be going right somewhere :p Albeit i do only play in a noob tier :D

Yeah early I always mana drain the creep at the back, but sometimes my team mate in the lane will target them for a kill for gold.

So annoying.

I dunno what my win rate is at the moment. Probably shocking lol
 
Yeah early I always mana drain the creep at the back, but sometimes my team mate in the lane will target them for a kill for gold.

So annoying.

I dunno what my win rate is at the moment. Probably shocking lol

Tell that team mate to sod off and hit the other ones until your regen has finished :p
 
I did say in chat, but he didn't pay any attention. I would have just let him lane on his own but the others had the others covered pretty well.

Ah well ... I guess that's the first time I get to call someone a noob :)
 
Also the headdress part of the item gives +3hp a second, so if you carry a mek you gain 7hp a second, which is pretty nice in the early game.

This isn't the case... the mek aura stacks with headdress aura, but only if you have an extra headdress as well as the mek. If you just have a mek you will just get the mek aura.
 
This isn't the case... the mek aura stacks with headdress aura, but only if you have an extra headdress as well as the mek. If you just have a mek you will just get the mek aura.

Learn something new every day, I must have been on my way to purchase a pipe when noticing this.

:]
 
Had an amazing Luna game earlier in ranked to get back to 2.5k after my bad run. Got my farm on and made mincemeat of them in any stand up fight.

Practiced a quick bot game to hone my Pudge and I'm about ready to unleash him now. Got my hook about perfect and really getting used to hook, cloud, kill :)
 
Had an amazing Luna game earlier in ranked to get back to 2.5k after my bad run. Got my farm on and made mincemeat of them in any stand up fight.

Practiced a quick bot game to hone my Pudge and I'm about ready to unleash him now. Got my hook about perfect and really getting used to hook, cloud, kill :)

oo you're at the same MMR region as me. I always thought i was in the dredges far lower than everyone here! (I'm on something like 2470 at the moment, game won't let me break 2.5)
 
Cannot stand Tobiwan, he doesn't know what he is talking about and just constantly screams. He also appears to have his mic much louder than any co-commentator he sits with, which is pretty shady if you ask me.

Sheever is half bearable if only interviewing players before the games start.

I'd prefer Tobiwan to ballsniffing Zyori any day of the week.
 
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