**** Official Fallout 4 Thread ****

So ive just fired this up tonight guys after buying it in the steam sale. Jeez it seems to be hard to run. My FPS seem to be decent enough but its not the smoothest of games going. Maybe ill have to wait till i upgrade my GPU. Any tips or tweeks guys to make it run abit more smoother?

I find I can ultra it at somewhere around 60fps@1440p (with an 1800x and a 1080) for the most part, but traipsing round Boston tends to get choppy. Godrays and shadows are the usual suspects. Plus it's a Bethesda game...
 
Im playing mostly high settings at the moment with a 980ti at 1440p. a lot of the outdoors im going around at about 100fps. Dropped godrays right off. In the towns and built up areas i see to be getting about 60ish fps. But i cant massive drops down to 40 which is pretty annoying.

Ive found in dialogue a lot of the characters start there new sentence before they've finished there old one. Got to say id be pretty gutted if i had paid anywhere near full price for it.

If i had to mark it out of 100 i think id be around 58.
 
Im playing mostly high settings at the moment with a 980ti at 1440p. a lot of the outdoors im going around at about 100fps. Dropped godrays right off. In the towns and built up areas i see to be getting about 60ish fps. But i cant massive drops down to 40 which is pretty annoying.

Ive found in dialogue a lot of the characters start there new sentence before they've finished there old one. Got to say id be pretty gutted if i had paid anywhere near full price for it.

If i had to mark it out of 100 i think id be around 58.

I can confirm the first line.

I can't agree with the following sentences because I actually really enjoyed it. Was my first ever Fallout as in this one the shooting actually felt like a traditional shooter and I fell in love with the soundtrack.
 
The only section I dislike in Far Harbor is the memory retrieval for DiMA - well the first three are okay but last playthrough I consoled in the completion of the last two stages. Too much time spent not really earning any XP.

Who play tested that section and said it was fun, boring grind completely out of step with the rest of the game.
 


Paid mods are here...

Not a problem,since I already assume the first year DLC is content which should be part of the game,so when I bought Fallout 4,I took the cost of the DLC pack out of what I would normally pay for any base game.

Now that the Creation Club will eventually lead to places like the Nexus going down the drain in a few years time,and mods fix half the bugs in their games,I will be now adding the cost of the paid mods to that,so I will be paying even less for the base game.

If it means I need to wait longer to play their games,then let it be that way.
 
Im playing mostly high settings at the moment with a 980ti at 1440p. a lot of the outdoors im going around at about 100fps. Dropped godrays right off. In the towns and built up areas i see to be getting about 60ish fps. But i cant massive drops down to 40 which is pretty annoying.

Ive found in dialogue a lot of the characters start there new sentence before they've finished there old one. Got to say id be pretty gutted if i had paid anywhere near full price for it.

If i had to mark it out of 100 i think id be around 58.

The issue is EVERYTHING is tied to framerate with FO4 engine. If you artificially cap your frames at 70/80 it'll have MUCH less issues all round.
 
The issue is EVERYTHING is tied to framerate with FO4 engine. If you artificially cap your frames at 70/80 it'll have MUCH less issues all round.

It also makes sense to cap the framerates to not much more than 60~70FPS as physics goes wonky after that.

The engine is not that well optimised - even though it can use more threads it is massively limited by one or two threads,which is why you see the drops,which gets worse when you start building large settlements and modding the game. Its not surprising with the game engine being so ancient.
 
Heads Up !!

Sorry for the "shout" but if you not already noticed it, Bethesda has gone and done something stupid. :mad: Without regards to if you want it or not, the Creation Kit is automaticlly downloaded to your hard drive when you start the game (since you can't prevent game from being updated on Steam, unless you play in offline mode (If it can be prevented all together, please adivce ! :) )). As of now it is not that big, but if it would keep growing you have loads of stuff you most likely don't want on your game hard drive.

Gopher made a comment about it all, linking the video for you to watch if interested.

 
It all depends on how Bethesda launch any future games. They could quite easily lock down unofficial modding in new games and only allow tools/assets through creaction club? Or am I being a bit paranoid?
 
Hahaha, no.
Remind me in 3 years.

So what happens if CC takes off and the Nexus has similar mods for free?? Bethesda is not your mate,they are a business here to make money.

They have allowed the community to make mods,so to fix the bugs in their game and add more content for free as they don't need to spend more money,and it keeps their games relevant for a few years.

In the end if they can dangle a carrot to get the best modders who fix their buggy games and make the best content to work for them for a pittance,why should they tolerate others doing the same for free since it will cost them money??

Modding is such a part of their open world games now,its almost like a feature,so people will still want the mods.

What happens if CC takes off and instead of fixing their buggy games,you now have to pay for the base game,DLCs and CC content to fix the bugs??

Take away the mods and what do games like Skyrim and FO4 look like when compared to games from companies like CDPR??

The graphics are outdated,they have poor animations,lots of bugs and the engine they use is based on one from the 1990s.

They make fun games,but on a technical side they have been lagging for quite a while in most areas(not all though TBF!).

Do you also think these modders will be paid the same going rate as the Bethesda staff - I doubt it,so potentially they can outsource more work to modders at a lower cost.

The effects of this will be seen in the next Skyrim and Fallout games if this works out.

Heads Up !!

Sorry for the "shout" but if you not already noticed it, Bethesda has gone and done something stupid. :mad: Without regards to if you want it or not, the Creation Kit is automaticlly downloaded to your hard drive when you start the game (since you can't prevent game from being updated on Steam, unless you play in offline mode (If it can be prevented all together, please adivce ! :) )). As of now it is not that big, but if it would keep growing you have loads of stuff you most likely don't want on your game hard drive.

Gopher made a comment about it all, linking the video for you to watch if interested.


Also listen to what he says about F4SE,apparently since the FO4 exe will be updated more often it will make it harder for them to keep up.
 
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Some more videos on the matter.



Both have "some" swearies in it,but both are a funny take on the Creation Club.

Thats the thing if CC was about Bethesda working with modders to make proper story DLCs,etc with access to more voice actors/actresses,proper support,etc which was incorporated into the canon I might be supportive of all of this.

However,this is what we have so far:

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Its exactly as most of us knew it would be, despite people saying to have faith and it sounds like a good implementation this time and the super talented modders will get paid for their time. Its just massively overpriced, crappy paid mods. £4 for a power armour skin? Jog on.
 
A significant update to get this Creation Club in - but all the other bugs/issues are untouched, the loading/transition times, BoS radiant missions sending you to the back end of Far Harbor when you're a L12 wuss, or maybe changing the MM radiants so you don't get the incessant drivel from Preston Gravy.
 
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