Same here. I am looking to spend about £400 for the full upgrade (minus anything I make by selling the stuff it replaces). I just need a motherboard, ram, cpu and ssd. Nothing else.
£20 makes a difference.
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Same here. I am looking to spend about £400 for the full upgrade (minus anything I make by selling the stuff it replaces). I just need a motherboard, ram, cpu and ssd. Nothing else.
£20 makes a difference.
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Fair enough. I'm buying the entire lot. Already bought a monitor, case and PSU. Mobo, RAM, CPU, GFX card and SSD still to come.
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Christ, I'm procrastinating enough over the CPU choice. I don't think I'd ever get a system built if I had all that to buy!
The reviews seem to suggest that the stable overclock for IB is 4.5ghz.
For SB, its around 4.8ghz.
At these clocks, both cpus perform about the same.
What the video review stated (on page1 of this thread), that once you start to jack up the voltage, the temps go sky high, very quickly.
I remember reading a review where the IB hit around 101C, when it was overclocked (not stable), to around 4.8ghz.
Do bear in mind though, these are early days. We are talking about a CPU which is not even available in retail channels.
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I guess just with user feedback on 680/7970 overclocking, we could very well have a 'official ivybridge overclocking thread' aswell. That way we can get user experiences and have a better and broader overview of how these cpus overclock. 
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Production samples have a larger IGP section than the review engineering samples:
http://www.chip-architect.com/news/2012_04_19_Ivy_Bridges_GPU_2-25_times_Sandys.html
It might to improve yields of the IGP but I wonder if power consumption is also affected - but unless production and engineering samples are tested side by side it will be hard to say.
It seems IB is actually around 183MM2 as opposed to the 216MM2 of SB.
http://www.chip-architect.com/news/2012_04_19_Ivy_Bridges_GPU_2-25_times_Sandys.html
It might to improve yields of the IGP but I wonder if power consumption is also affected - but unless production and engineering samples are tested side by side it will be hard to say.
It seems IB is actually around 183MM2 as opposed to the 216MM2 of SB.
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Until the retail models hit, this is still fairly conjectural. The i7 970 was slated by the several reviewers (Hexus, Bit-Tech for 2) because the early review models didn't overclock particularly well. The 970 came out of the blue, so I'm guessing that Intel are fulfilling their minimum obligations by furnishing technology sites with review models, which aren't necessarily the best - just best available at that time. Who knows! We can all hypothesize all day long, same with pricing.
Regarding the debate about price, these must be priced at around the same price as the current SandyBridge equivalent, or higher. The only way SandyBridge will come down is if there is a glut of them still in stock and they need to be cleared. Intel wont want to be manufacturing 2 cpus for the same socket, competing against itself. They'll ramp down production of Sandy in order to replace with Ivy, and price the stock accordingly.... simple supply and demand....
arghhhhh this is doing my nut in
im not too sure what to go for now due to the reported heat problems but if i do go for an ivybridge, will the kuhler620 be up to the job ?
or should i just go for a new 2500k for 144
I'm pretty sure your 620 will have an easier life sitting on top of a SB, unless you go easy on Ivy.
I spent £144 earlier today.
That's probably a guarantee that 2500ks are about to tumble in price !
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I think I will be going with Ivy. I can see the arguments for Sandy but I really think those moaning about overclocking being slightly worse are missing the point that in real terms performance will be hardly significant.
Obviously, this relies on them being roughly the same price.
Obviously, this relies on them being roughly the same price.
I agree that when overclocked, both IB and SB are level pegging in performance. However, SB is a stable CPU. Its been tried and tested. It's predictable. Its also available to buy, right now, using the 10% off voucher.
If IB was in the shops now, at the same price as SB, then IB would be an attractive proposition. But given the lower cost of SB (using 10% voucher), how can anybody justify spending more than 10% more, on IB?
yeah, what 10% voucher?
If you are able to use the IGP, if it avoids the cost and power consumption of a video card, or for small form factor means it will fit in your case, then £20 extra for Ivy is well worth it.
This is what Ivy is about not beating SB by 5% on some benchmark.
This is what Ivy is about not beating SB by 5% on some benchmark.
I'm pretty sure your 620 will have an easier life sitting on top of a SB, unless you go easy on Ivy.
I spent £144 earlier today.
That's probably a guarantee that 2500ks are about to tumble in price !
I really do doubt they'll tumble. Look at the prices of old gen chips. i7 9XX's have only recently started to really drop, and that's driven by the second hand market, or fact that retailers can't shift them when they're at i7 2XXX prices. An i7 970/980/980X/990X still costs more than the Sandybridge kit...
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Well with that surely you would have to be mad to be buying a new SB when next week there will be a load of second hand available at a much bigger saving than new?