** Official ** January 2010 Transfer Thread- Rumours & Speculation in here

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has warned supporters not to expect any big-name signings in the near future, despite having £60m at his disposal, because he does not see any value in the transfer market.
Full story: The Times

Real Madrid have offered their 23-year-old Argentine centre back Ezequiel Garay to Manchester United to help solve their defensive injury crisis. However, he would cost around £6m as the Spanish side are reluctant to do a loan deal.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp has admitted he would be keen to sign Ruud van Nistelrooy, 33, if the Real Madrid striker became available in the January transfer window. Liverpool and Arsenal are also reportedly tracking the former Manchester United forward.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Redknapp is also chasing Lazio's Macedonia striker Goran Pandev, 26, who is available for between £3-4m despite being told by Spurs chairman Daniel Levy that there is no money for new players.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Sunderland, Hull and Blackburn are keeping tabs on Colin Kazim-Richards, 23, after the winger was transfer-listed by Turkish side Fenerbahce.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Everton have opened talks with striker Louis Saha over a new contract, with his current two-year deal due to expire in the summer. Italian side Roma, French club Bordeaux and Spanish team Atletico Madrid are all interested in the 31-year-old French international.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Interesting story relating to Ezequiel Garay. It's a player that I know Fergie monitored a few years back but Madrid stumped up the cash 1st. I think there are some long term questions over Rio's fitness so this maybe one story that isn't too wide of the mark from the Mirror. What a refreshing change :p
 
Didn't Agüero also say recently that he's no intention of leaving Spain?

Not aimed at anyone team - Why would a player risk a January move ahead of a World Cup?

You can't adjust for whatever reason and end up unfit and not playing football before the World Cup, is it worth the risk?
 
It'd be silly of Aguero to leave now, especially since his place in the Argentinian side is far from concrete and he wouldn't get nearly as many minutes at Chelsea as he does at Athletico. Athletico are in some pretty serious debt though aren't they? Could be forced to sell
 
Tummy said:
Didn't Agüero also say recently that he's no intention of leaving Spain?

Not aimed at anyone team - Why would a player risk a January move ahead of a World Cup?

You can't adjust for whatever reason and end up unfit and not playing football before the World Cup, is it worth the risk?
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Balance that against potentially playing more CL games (even ANY CL games if present club are already out /never played this season)

Better team / team mates (ie playing alongside Drogba / Rooney instead of some unknowns / little knowns

Also bare in mind that what footballer up for a transfer would start to believe he wont adjust (it wont even come into comprehension for most imo, as they surely HAVE to believe they are able to adjust and step into the team)

I totally see your side of the discussion without doubt, but look at Huntelaar not playing well in Italy (according to reports) - or Benzema at Real (although the latter I think is definitely blown out of proportion) - it may be too much of a risk NOT to move
 
FrankJH said:
Balance that against potentially playing more CL games (even ANY CL games if present club are already out /never played this season)
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More games more chance for injury? Athletico aren't a bad side, they're a very good side.


FrankJH said:
Also bare in mind that what footballer up for a transfer would start to believe he wont adjust (it wont even come into comprehension for most imo, as they surely HAVE to believe they are able to adjust and step into the team)
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Believing you'll adjust, to a different life style, country, eect ect is one thing, doing that is another.

If a player isn't settled or happy it will have a knock on effect on his game, which can effect him getting in to his National side.


FrankJH said:
I totally see your side of the discussion without doubt, but look at Huntelaar not playing well in Italy (according to reports) - or Benzema at Real (although the latter I think is definitely blown out of proportion) - it may be too much of a risk NOT to move
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Huntelaar isn't doing badly, he scored in their last game didn't he?

Benzema has gone from been a big fish in a little pond, to a little fish in a big pond at Real, He's not adjusting. (Notice how he hasn't started for Fance)

The World Cup is the biggest stage, the most important competition some of these players will play in, and winning it puts them makes them footballing legends, they'll go down in history.

Really going to risk missing out on that?
 
imo Benzema has started to show what all the hype was about in the last few games, he's settling in and starting to look deadly.

Also, starting for France isn't really a big deal, I'm convinced that Domenech would play his dad at CM if he could, or his cat up front. That man is nuts and doesn't care about how good the players are at football, why should that be important when picking a football team afterall? It's all about superstitions and what star sign they are
 
jakeke said:
It'd be silly of Aguero to leave now, especially since his place in the Argentinian side is far from concrete and he wouldn't get nearly as many minutes at Chelsea as he does at Athletico. Athletico are in some pretty serious debt though aren't they? Could be forced to sell
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Athletico do need the money but it might also help Aguero's world cup chances too. I think Maradona has said that athletico are too small a club for aguero and it's harming his development as a player. If we pay big money for him then he'll definitely get a lot of game time - possibly at the expense of anelka which is a big shame but we have to look to the future, especially with the possible transfer ban.
 
jakeke said:
imo Benzema has started to show what all the hype was about in the last few games, he's settling in and starting to look deadly.

Also, starting for France isn't really a big deal, I'm convinced that Domenech would play his dad at CM if he could, or his cat up front. That man is nuts and doesn't care about how good the players are at football, why should that be important when picking a football team afterall? It's all about superstitions and what star sign they are
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Benzema was benched a lot at the start of the season, it's only now that he's getting a fair chance at the first eleven.

Domenech is tapped, he's a mentalist :D

Didn't he ask his bird to marry him after a game and she said no? :D
 
I think benzema just needs a bit more time at madrid but he is a very good player. Domenech is a complete mentalist.
 
Tummy said:
More games more chance for injury? Athletico aren't a bad side, they're a very good side.
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You are just as likely to be injured in any game - and I didnt say they would be playing more games in total (maybe they will but not necessarily - depending on other cup comps etc)

Tummy said:
Believing you'll adjust, to a different life style, country, eect ect is one thing, doing that is another.

If a player isn't settled or happy it will have a knock on effect on his game, which can effect him getting in to his National side.
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I didnt say it was gaurenteed - I just said I doubt most professionals at the top of their game believe they wont adjust (so therefore it wont be much of a consideration)

Tummy said:
Huntelaar isn't doing badly, he scored in their last game didn't he?

Benzema has gone from been a big fish in a little pond, to a little fish in a big pond at Real, He's not adjusting. (Notice how he hasn't started for Fance)

The World Cup is the biggest stage, the most important competition some of these players will play in, and winning it puts them makes them footballing legends, they'll go down in history.

Really going to risk missing out on that?
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If Berbatov scored one goal would you think he was playing well?

One goal means nothing

(and what does failing at the World cup do to that person? If you arent playing regularly for your club - it doesnt really matter as you are unlikely to go anyway - so you have to try anything, whether its a temp loan or a full on transfer)
 
bibalasvegas said:
Athletico do need the money but it might also help Aguero's world cup chances too. I think Maradona has said that athletico are too small a club for aguero and it's harming his development as a player. If we pay big money for him then he'll definitely get a lot of game time - possibly at the expense of anelka which is a big shame but we have to look to the future, especially with the possible transfer ban.
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Possibly, it's very hard to speculate whether his chances will improve as we don't know Maradona's thoughts on it (does anybody?) or whether Ancelotti would see him as immediate first choice. I personally think it'd be a massive shame to split Anelka and Drogba as this season they've been brilliant together after a pretty disjointed start with each other.
 
FrankJH said:
You are just as likely to be injured in any game - and I didnt say they would be playing more games in total (maybe they will but not necessarily - depending on other cup comps etc)
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Thats true, but you'll be out to impress a new club, show your manager / fans / team mates what you're all about.


FrankJH said:
I didnt say it was gaurenteed - I just said I doubt most professionals at the top of their game believe they wont adjust (so therefore it wont be much of a consideration)
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New country, New life, New language ect ect is a scary thought, on top of that you'll have to play well to stay in the team. It's a lot of pressure as well, why swap something thats good so close to a World Cup?



FrankJH said:
If Berbatov scored one goal would you think he was playing well?

One goal means nothing
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No, Berbatov like a lot of very good players brings more to the game then just goals. Huntelaar, has again moved to another country, another massive club in a short space of time.


FrankJH said:
(and what does failing at the World cup do to that person? If you arent playing regularly for your club - it doesnt really matter as you are unlikely to go anyway - so you have to try anything, whether its a temp loan or a full on transfer)
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World Class players aren't bit part players for their club. If you're not playing you're less likely to get picked for a national side. I don't see how moving (considering all the other aspects you'd face) would help that chance, maybe moving to another club in the same league.
 
jakeke said:
I personally think it'd be a massive shame to split Anelka and Drogba as this season they've been brilliant together after a pretty disjointed start with each other.
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Yep, I feel a bit like this too but neither are spring chickens and you don't often get the opportunity to sign a 21 year old with as much talent as aguero. If we don't sign a new striker and the transfer ban is imposed we could find it difficult in the future - what if drogba got badly injured? Borini looks decent and Sturridge hasn't had much of a chance yet but Aguero is definitely better than both.
 
I think Ferguson talking about "value" in the transfer market is laughable, especially after £30 million for Berbatoss and £18 million for Valencia, 2 players who are worth £20 million between the pair of them.
 
I think it's imperative that we sign a right back in January. That position needs to be addressed. We can't rely on stop gaps anymore, the young Brazilian twins are for the future and need to find out how to defend, that'll come with age. Brown seems to be permanently injured, Gary Neville is well past it, too injury prone and slow when he is fit. O'Shea has been and is a mere stop gap and isn't what we should have as our only real option at right back. And that's even before bringing a player who would probably do brilliantly there (Hargreaves) but alas his knees and his mind now have had it.

Goalkeeping wise, VDS probably has this season and maybe next. That's it. Foster and PIG aren't Man Utd number 1 shirts. I see many names put forward as possible signings there, but I think we should get away from looking at young keepers who could spend the next 10yrs with us. I'd rather we went out and signed a world class goalkeeper in their early 30s with European and International experience and had them 5 years rather than buying keeper after keeper.

Up front, if someone came in for Berbatov right now for £20m I'd sell him. This ****ing around with up front isn't helping Rooney in the slightest. Now Ronaldo is gone, Ferguson said the team would be built around Rooney, well now's your chance. Bring in the partner he needs up front.

Central midfield, I'm sure Harry Redknapp is laughing his ass off at how cheaply he was able to buy Kranjcar, look at how well he's been doing. Scoring, setting up goals, attacking! All things I'd love to see our central midfield do. It's not much to ask. A creative goal scoring midfielder to partner one of Carrick/Fletcher/Anderson. It's even more apparent when Giggs isn't playing how much we lack in central midfield. There's just no urgency without him. And we can't expect him to continually pull us out of the water, his good run will come to an end unfortunately.
 
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