** Official ** January 2010 Transfer Thread- Rumours & Speculation in here

[lee32uk]

We need an attacking Midfield player/playmaker and Krasic would fit the bill nicely.
Krasic is an established player though for club and country whereas Ljajic is still a bit of an unknown quantity. Also Krasic is only 25 so it would fit in well with Uniteds policy.
We definately need someone who can make things happen in the middle of the pitch. I believe that Krasic can play both centre and wide positions.
If we want to win the Champions league then we need a couple of world class players.

 

[Tummy]

United have World Class players.

Fergie said the youth coming through is good enough, which is why he isn't buying Ljajic, why would he then go and buy another young player?



I think United need to come to a decision about a long term replacement for Van Der Sar, and looking towards another option up top.

 

[BFCTom]

Krasic isn't that young tbh, he's 25 iirc.

edit: must read post above fully before writing...

 

[Tummy]

Krasic isn't that young tbh, he's 25 iirc.

edit: must read post above fully before writing...

25 is a baby compared to the oldies at Chelsea

 

[Tom84]

Aye, consistently one of the worst performers on the field every week and it makes business sense to sell him before his value plummets. He is the laziest player in the squad and as he gets older he isn't going to start trying more

lol wasn't it you talking him up as being possibly this seasons player of the year after last season debut cameo?

 

[BFCTom]

25 is a good age for a player imo.

Krasic would be frightening at United, he's far better than any of their current wingers and can also play centrally in the hole.

I'm sure I read somewhere CSKA rejected a bid of 20M Euros from Real in the summer, seems like they value him highly.

 

[Shamikebab]

We need an attacking Midfield player/playmaker and Krasic would fit the bill nicely.
Krasic is an established player though for club and country whereas Ljajic is still a bit of an unknown quantity. Also Krasic is only 25 so it would fit in well with Uniteds policy.
We definately need someone who can make things happen in the middle of the pitch. I believe that Krasic can play both centre and wide positions.
If we want to win the Champions league then we need a couple of world class players.

Krasic is mostly a wide player from what I've seen, we've got them coming out the wazoo. I'd much rather have Dzagoev personally.

 

[BFCTom]

Krasic is mostly a wide player from what I've seen, we've got them coming out the wazoo. I'd much rather have Dzagoev personally.

Dzagoev plays centrally more regularly, but Krasic can play there too.

 

[Tom84]

I think United's biggest area that needs filling is defence, only Evra can be relied upon week in week out (Vidic to a slightly lesser extent), the rest just keep getting injured; Ferdinand has this back/groin problem, his deputy Evans is always injured when Rio is injured, Brown has always been injury prone, now we're relying on him O'Shea appears to be getting more and more injuries, Neville is quite obviously past it and the Da Silva twins both seem to always have injury's as well

I think we've got more than enough up front unless a truly world class striker becomes available as I dont see anyone at the moment who is available being better than Rooney or Berbatov and with Owen, Welbeck and Macheda I think we have enough in reserve as well.

Midfield likewise I think we've got enough, ok no big name glamour players like a Lampard, Essien or Fabregas but what we have got is enough to beat the majority of teams in the Premiership and enough to contend with the aforementioned players when we play the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool.

Apart from defence I'd say the wide areas is the only other position that we need strengthening, Valencia is getting better and better as the games go by and Obertan is looking to be better then I ever imagined (I didn't have high hopes for him though) but maybe an out and out exciting winger for the right hand side and a maybe a more disciplined yet talented player for the left i.e. a Ji-Sung Park with ability

Right now my first choice signing would be Lennon from Spurs, he's come on leaps and bounds over the past 2 seasons or so and now has an end product to go with his pace and trickery, I think it's safe to say he's nailed down the right hand birth for England as well.

 

[jakeke]

lol wasn't it you talking him up as being possibly this seasons player of the year after last season debut cameo?

He was amazing last season, have no idea what happened over the summer but his attitude is poor and he's negatively effecting the team. Arsenal's system only works when all 10 players work equally hard, he doesn't.

The other day I was thinking about when I said/hoped Arshavin could be the best player in the league and I just wondered how it all went so wrong and why he refuses to work hard. Guess I was wrong

In pure footballing terms I do still believe he could be one of the best in the league, unfortunately his attitude is in the way, and even worse, that's just how he is as a person, so it isn't going to change. He's suited to Spanish football, not English football

I remember Wenger saying before he bought Arsh that he would never be able to play 3 games per week at a high level, the Zenit directors replied by saying Wenger was wrong and then poking fun at him and accusing him of trying to lower Arshavin's value, turns out that he can barely keep up with 1 game per week, and to expect him to play 3 is fantasy.

 

[FrankJH]

It all depends on how much Tosic cost, anyone know?

I agree on the striker but I just don't know about the GK. We have 3 GK's that most of the teams in the Premiership would kill for. PIG has done brilliantly in his last 2 matches and Foster is a good GK. Surely if we bought someone else then we'd have to sell both those two?

Theoreticallly it was a £16m deal for both of them - and the amount payable for mini-kaka was £10m (which would make sense as he was the more promising last Jan) , so around £6m for Tosic (this is based on reports 12 months ago and over the last few days - but not sure about accuracy)

Personally dont think PIG is consistant enough to even be No2 - yes he has done well in the last couple of matches but he makes me as nervous as BF. I really wish Ben Foster was better, he would be a good No 2 but no way is he good enough to replace VdS when he retires (which is all too imminent) - even if VdS does get one more year on his contract (thereby going until summer of 2011) we need his replacement in and getting uised to the squad at least one transfer window before VdS departs

Ben has done ok - he wasnt at fault for nearly as many goals as the press wanted to make out, but he does flap at crosses far too much, and there were some high profile and costly mistakes


Midfield wise - wait for Hargreaves, he is a class act, and by middle of Jan we should know whether his fitness has returned fully or not, certainly the best option compared to buying anyone available currently.

Berbatov is really annoying - sometimes he can be a class act and some touches are just sublime, but it really is looking like he will never score enough goals for Utd, which is really what he is there for in the first place.

Dont get me started on Lennon - apart from the fact Spurs would lynch us for £25m+ , Lennon isnt consistant enough at all, some of his recent games where truelly amazing and he looked like a real player - and then in the next game he totally disappears and does nothing of note at all (and thats for Spurs and England)

 

[Tom84]

Dont get me started on Lennon - apart from the fact Spurs would lynch us for £25m+ , Lennon isnt consistant enough at all, some of his recent games where truelly amazing and he looked like a real player - and then in the next game he totally disappears and does nothing of note at all (and thats for Spurs and England)

Him not being consistent is just based on the fact that he plays for an inconsistent club like Spurs, I dont know how you can say it's the same when he plays for England because he's very rarely been given the starts

As for the price tag yes Spurs would demand upwards of 20m but I think he'd be worth it, more so than 30m for Silva of Valencia or any other foreign players that people are talking up

 

[Visionary]

You'd rather have Lennon for £20m over Silva for £30m?

 

[Tom84]

You'd rather have Lennon for £20m over Silva for £30m?

Lennon is proven in the Premiership and for the past two seasons has been brilliant for Spurs, Silva on the other hand going by stats alone doesn't get enough goals nor create enough goals. Plus as with any player that plays abroad when spending that amount of money you need to be sure that they can adjust to the Premiership, I think that would be a big if with Silva

Plus there's the new Fifa rule regarding having more domestic players in squads

 

[jakeke]

Silva is better, dunno about £10m better and also don't think he wants to come to England as he probably knows he won't be nearly as effective

 

[Tom84]

Silva is better, dunno about £10m better and also don't think he wants to come to England as he probably knows he won't be nearly as effective

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5744448,00.html

Thought you'd like this

 

[FrankJH]

Him not being consistent is just based on the fact that he plays for an inconsistent club like Spurs, I dont know how you can say it's the same when he plays for England because he's very rarely been given the starts

As for the price tag yes Spurs would demand upwards of 20m but I think he'd be worth it, more so than 30m for Silva of Valencia or any other foreign players that people are talking up

I said that in regards to England as when he has been on good form for Spurs (earlier this season) and he got a few starts for England, he completely disappeared for majority of the time he was on the pitch

The ONLY reason I would be in favour of Lennon over Silva is because of his nationality - which to me isnt a decent reason to buy a less experienced player (all around) even if he is more knowledgable about the EPL (and Silva is more exp in the CL so practically balances out)

Personally think Silva would make a better purchase in the long run

 

[jakeke]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5744448,00.html

Thought you'd like this

While he shouldn't be the one criticising Arsenal at the moment he's totally right. Arsene needs to find a balance to maximise the output of the team, it's no good having 11 small players, he needs 2 or 3 stronger, taller players to add a threat from the air when going forwards and to generally remind teams they're not playing against the U16's

 

[Tom84]

I said that in regards to England as when he has been on good form for Spurs (earlier this season) and he got a few starts for England, he completely disappeared for majority of the time he was on the pitch

I dont know the exact stats but Lennon was MOTM in his last start for England and from memory I cant remember many if any starts before that, I thought he had mainly been limited to sub appearances with the likes of SWP, Walcott, Bentley, Milner & Young all getting in ahead of him.

I may be wrong though

 

[Tummy]

I dont know the exact stats but Lennon was MOTM in his last start for England and from memory I cant remember many if any starts before that, I thought he had mainly been limited to sub appearances with the likes of SWP, Walcott, Bentley, Milner & Young all getting in ahead of him.

I may be wrong though

They are awful.