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AndreiD · 6 Nov 2017 at 18:52

Seconding the ASRock Taichi, too bad they weren't in stock when I built my system, because I would have definitely went that route.
It also has a monstrous VRM.

zom247 · 6 Nov 2017 at 19:51

Aretak said:
They do have the offset, yes, though I believe Ryzen Master shows the real temperature. Download HWiNFO64 and run that in sensor mode. The real temperature is a value called Tdie, whilst the offset is Tctl. An idle temperature of ~40 would seem a little high to me, though 55 under load is perfectly fine. My 1700X sat in the mid-20s at idle on air, even with Cool n Quiet disabled and a silence-optimised case.

Installed HWiNFO64 and ran it in sensor mode, here are my initial temps on idle:

Tdie - 38C
Tctl - 58C

I ran the CPU-Z Bench Test and it went to:

Tdie - 61C
Tctl - 81C

These temps are ok I think but not sure what they're going to go up to when I overclock.

Nutella33 · 6 Nov 2017 at 20:36

Zeed said:
New Calculator out V5 with extra tweeks ect
He aded video for less inteligebnt people

Just used his v4 on friday and its honestly impressive. Got me back up to 3200mhz C14 and 3.9ghz. Feels like copying someones homework tbh

Guy is a legend

opethdisciple · 6 Nov 2017 at 23:23

Zeed said:
New Calculator out V5 with extra tweeks ect
He aded video for less inteligebnt people

http://www.overclock.net/t/1640919/ryzen-dram-calculator-overclocking-dram/0_50

So far i managed to drop vcore by 100mv soc by 70mv pll by 100mv while gaining 1-2% of performance and system is more stable than before.

Interesting!!! I didn't realise this was this awesome! does it work for Crucial LPX ram as well?

Is there much difference between safe and fast preset? I mean performance wise?

Also I see in the video under 'termination block' it estimates the procODT voltage which is cool.

But other than ProODT Rec there is loads of other boxes. :confused:

Is The ProcODT Rec value enough? Or do we need all the others too?

I'll probably give this a go tomorrow.

If this gets my Crucial LPX ram up to 3200Mhz I'll give you a kiss!

gavinh87 · 6 Nov 2017 at 23:30

zom247 said:
Installed HWiNFO64 and ran it in sensor mode, here are my initial temps on idle:

Tdie - 38C
Tctl - 58C

I ran the CPU-Z Bench Test and it went to:

Tdie - 61C
Tctl - 81C

These temps are ok I think but not sure what they're going to go up to when I overclock.

That seems quite warm for only running a very short bench test.

Nutella33 · 6 Nov 2017 at 23:57

opethdisciple said:
Also I see in the video under 'termination block' it estimates the procODT voltage which is cool.

But other than ProODT Rec there is loads of other boxes.

Is The ProcODT Rec value enough? Or do we need all the others too?

Just take a photo and fill it all in as the program suggests tbh. Some of the timing names are slightly different on my C6H but you can tell what goes where due to the number patterns.

There's also a tab for power settings in the program that gives you the best phase power controls for the RAM/VDDSOC/Soc/CPU etc if your board has those options.

Can't say about performance between safe and fast. There's also an 'extra safe' tick option as well tho.

jaffveyda · 7 Nov 2017 at 08:00

zom247 said:
Installed HWiNFO64 and ran it in sensor mode, here are my initial temps on idle:

Tdie - 38C
Tctl - 58C

I ran the CPU-Z Bench Test and it went to:

Tdie - 61C
Tctl - 81C

These temps are ok I think but not sure what they're going to go up to when I overclock.

Is that after you deduct the offset ?
My one does maximum of 52 degrees while stress testing using AIda64. Something is wrong here. Try resitting cooler.

Atari · 7 Nov 2017 at 10:13

Nutella33 said:
Just take a photo and fill it all in as the program suggests tbh. Some of the timing names are slightly different on my C6H but you can tell what goes where due to the number patterns.

There's also a tab for power settings in the program that gives you the best phase power controls for the RAM/VDDSOC/Soc/CPU etc if your board has those options.

Can't say about performance between safe and fast. There's also an 'extra safe' tick option as well tho.

Tried both settings for 3333MHz on my Trident Z Samsung B-Die RAM, neither would boot, and I ended up having to pull CMOS battery to get it to boot back up again.

I think it's my board being a waste of time (X370 Prime).

Zeed · 7 Nov 2017 at 10:27

Atari said:
Tried both settings for 3333MHz on my Trident Z Samsung B-Die RAM, neither would boot, and I ended up having to pull CMOS battery to get it to boot back up again.

I think it's my board being a waste of time (X370 Prime).

Atm im using fast 333e myself 3466 wont boot 3600 works but ddr's not stable

Zeed · 7 Nov 2017 at 10:28

opethdisciple said:
Interesting!!! I didn't realise this was this awesome! does it work for Crucial LPX ram as well?

Is there much difference between safe and fast preset? I mean performance wise?

Also I see in the video under 'termination block' it estimates the procODT voltage which is cool.

But other than ProODT Rec there is loads of other boxes.

Is The ProcODT Rec value enough? Or do we need all the others too?

I'll probably give this a go tomorrow.

If this gets my Crucial LPX ram up to 3200Mhz I'll give you a kiss!

Have a play does nottake time. Fill everything up run hci memtest and see how far ya get

Atari · 7 Nov 2017 at 10:46

Zeed said:
Atm im using fast 333e myself 3466 wont boot 3600 works but ddr's not stable

Yeah I wish I'd have gone for the Crosshair - the X370 Prime is awful, the last BIOS update was released without a changelog...thanks ASUS!

Skidder · 7 Nov 2017 at 11:14

Anyone able to point me to a good overclocking guide / thread for the 1600 (with ROG Strix 350 and 8 Pack 3200 memeory)? I'm out of the loop on overclocking as I set and forgot my 2500k with a great overclock for 6 years!

Zeed · 7 Nov 2017 at 12:12

Atari said:
Yeah I wish I'd have gone for the Crosshair - the X370 Prime is awful, the last BIOS update was released without a changelog...thanks ASUS!

Best board i ever had. So much abuse with ibt prime and mining 24/7.super solid.

opethdisciple · 7 Nov 2017 at 12:50

The X370 Prime inst that bad. I have it and it is completely fine.

Only persistent issue I have is every now and then it boots up not able to find my SSD (disappeared). A reboot and all is fine again.

Yes, annoying that Asus released BIOS with out change log, but at least even now 8 months after release we are still getting support. They could easily decided that enough work has been done and not release any new BIOSes.

zom247 · 7 Nov 2017 at 16:04

jaffveyda said:
Is that after you deduct the offset ?
My one does maximum of 52 degrees while stress testing using AIda64. Something is wrong here. Try resitting cooler.

I re-seated (again) my cooler and added another outtake fan to my case. Got the following temps from HWInfoon CPU-Z Bench test:

Tctl - 63C
Tdie - 43C (this is the true reading with offset)

I also did the AIDA64 system stability test and temps were:

Tctl - 65C
Tdie - 45C

This is all at stock so I think this is ok now (unless someone tells me otherwise).

SiDeards73 · 7 Nov 2017 at 16:55

Right guys, made my mind up I'm gunna buy a chip tonight, is it worth the extra £30 for the 1700x over the 1700? Or just go for the 1700?

Journey · 7 Nov 2017 at 17:11

SiDeards73 said:
Right guys, made my mind up I'm gunna buy a chip tonight, is it worth the extra £30 for the 1700x over the 1700? Or just go for the 1700?

Depends if you plan on trying to squeeze as much as an OC out of it as possible, on a good board, or if you are just half with middle of the road.

SiDeards73 · 7 Nov 2017 at 17:19

Got a CH6 and a 240mm AIO.

Journey · 7 Nov 2017 at 17:24

SiDeards73 said:
Got a CH6 and a 240mm AIO.

May as well get the 1700X then, you've no need for the cooler. It might get you 4.0GHz stable instead on 3.8-3.9 on the 1700.

SiDeards73 · 7 Nov 2017 at 17:38

Went for the 1700, will be happy with 3.8-3.9 if i can get there, its only til the refresh anyhow

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