******Official Star Citizen / Squadron 42 Thread******
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it's a mix, they have always had staff dedicated to ships as it's always been a huge focus. if you look at sales over the years it has taken them a while to really exploit them to fill potential. which is all about bringing in funds.
nobody is forced to buy anything beyond the basic package. it can all be earned in game later
nobody is forced to buy anything beyond the basic package. it can all be earned in game later
You should always be able to get a ship in game. doesn't mean you can always buy from a dealer though, may need to steal it. I can't think of any ship that's been on sale that won't be able to get except potentially the newer version of the hornet for squadron 42 although that's never been sold.
Bear in mind that the ships are purely to fund development, post release that option most likely won't be there are they'll be raising funds for continued development via other means.
Bear in mind that the ships are purely to fund development, post release that option most likely won't be there are they'll be raising funds for continued development via other means.
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You know I took the time to read this earlier and thought I'd point out some of the most glaring mistakes in CATs post, I've no axe to grind as I've no idea who it is to be honest.
They've been up front about this being a long term project since the start, is it delayed absolutely but does it matter to backers? That's the real question and no I don't think it typically does anymore. Those who haven't backed can whinge all they like, those who have backed and are fed up can get refunds. I don't see the issue.
Peter Molyneux gets the same treatment as does David Braben, personalities in the gaming industry are few and far between. A cult? No he's just popular with a set of people and a likeable person who loves games.
Most kickstarter projects fizzle away because they have no way to pay for an increased scope, whilst people whinge about Star Citizen using ships to raise funds it's proven a very effective method of keeping money rolling in, in addition to subscribers paying to keep monthly shows coming out - which means those ship pledges can go straight to development. If you look at most KS projects now the successful ones typically have some method of raising funds post KS ending.
They don't shut down criticism, on their own forum, the subreddit where they have some influence etc. They go after those who are purposely spreading BS and generally breaking the law. The sites who have redacted articles have done so after checking sources post release after being contacted by CIG and realising their sources were unreliable at best. However those moaning that you can't criticise them on their own forum, that's not true, how you go about it is important and if it seems like a flame thread or is siting sources which are unreliable then I think you'd struggle to find any company anywhere that'd allow that content to remain. It's not unique to CIG for example OCUK do it too.
Modular development means no complete game early on to test. Those involved in the process have been aware of this since 2014 at the latest.
This one really highlights the lack of knowledge over Star Citizen and CIG by the poster.
1. CIG were asked to use Kickstarter by the community in 2012, initially they were only fundraising directly through their own site.
2. From day one it's been about avoiding traditional funding methods e.g. publishers.
Or perhaps it's adults being adults and spending their money how they want to? What a terrible thing. We could be blowing $100 on a skin for a knife in counterstrike and nobody would bat an eyelid. Like many in the community who have spent hundreds, if not thousands of hours playing the various modules I'd be disappointed if the game went to the wall today but I have to say I've had more fun in SC in the past couple of years than any other game which is out, including all of those AAA publisher backed games. Heck my second and third choices would be Rimworld and ARK, neither of which came from a mainstream studio and both of which are still being made.
DS I don't usually comment on, no point and not worth the effort. It's a developer who's never put out anything even comparable with the worst indy devs and leaves them in a buggy mess. It's incredibly ironic that he's become some sort of mascot for trolls of CIG given his history.
Also as someone who's done a fair bit of project management in recent years what we're seeing is a scope that until fairly recently kept growing. I put blame for that squarely on CIGs shoulders even if it was the community that was pushing for it. Since they halted, or at least slowed that expanding of scope things have progressed much faster. Early management wasn't good, I even state this in one of my videos but they've massively improved. One of the biggest problems has been the need to create tools to make things work or break and improve cryengine which they've done time and again.
It would have been easy for them to make a bloated Freelancer, they've already gone way beyond that. I'm not convinced they are being straight with us on long term timescales yet though. That's my one main area of annoyance if I'm honest but I'm use to it.
Also as someone who's done a fair bit of project management in recent years what we're seeing is a scope that until fairly recently kept growing. I put blame for that squarely on CIGs shoulders even if it was the community that was pushing for it. Since they halted, or at least slowed that expanding of scope things have progressed much faster. Early management wasn't good, I even state this in one of my videos but they've massively improved. One of the biggest problems has been the need to create tools to make things work or break and improve cryengine which they've done time and again.
It would have been easy for them to make a bloated Freelancer, they've already gone way beyond that. I'm not convinced they are being straight with us on long term timescales yet though. That's my one main area of annoyance if I'm honest but I'm use to it.
I see progress week by week and I'm not even that obsessed unlike many with keeping up to date on the project now. I'm more interested in playing what we have than seeing what's coming next. I'm in Evocati, as is Humbug and several others on here who get to play the latest updates when they come out, just like 3.0 etc.
Tipping point - varies, depends on what progress is being made and a bit like a broken record now but I do see it happening or I think I'd have passed my tipping point. I was relatively fed up with delays back in early 2014, I've since slowly been won back over but if I don't see the first 10 chapters of Squadron 42 by 2020 I'll probably be past my personal tipping point unless there's huge advances (and I mean bloody huge!) on Squadron 42.
However being past my tipping point doesn't mean I'll ask for a refund, I've played well over 1000 hours on SC already in the various modules and had an obscene amount of fun doing so. I already have value for money, I'd just be disappointed if others didn't get to play that too. I've got a whole new band of guys online to play with now as well many of whom I'd never have met without SC.. depends where you place value and personally cash is worth less to me than time and people.
If you want a slimmed down history of SC, I've done 2012 and 2013 on youtube already. It's from y my, admittedly biased (pro-CIG) viewpoint though, not a neutral although I do think I'm reasonably non-fanatical when it comes to most CIG staff. Mark Abent is off limits though, he's a god.
That Gladius landing nearly gave me a heart attack, his binds for lateral thrust down is almost as brutal as mine!
Seamless transition is likely to happen, size of instances is the bigger problem. netcode has been endlessly worked on and we've still to see progress on it. But then again we've never really been asked to test it either. It's been a work in progress since 2014/15 and honestly I lost interest in keeping track on it but it's a big problem if it can't be worked out. Humbug is far more into the technical elements like this, don't ask him about the engine - you'll be here all day!
KS accounts for something like $5 million our if $150 million +
they also would have hit the funding goal without it but may have then went to private investors rather than continuing to find raise via their own site. Interesting that it could have worked out very differently
they also would have hit the funding goal without it but may have then went to private investors rather than continuing to find raise via their own site. Interesting that it could have worked out very differently
willing to bet the community don't want a slimmed down game, quite the opposite.
go research that on your own buddy I honestly don't have time for this silliness lol
I'll drop you off on the nursery moon in the way past so you can play with the other kids.
1. What you get is the opportunity to download a huge client 30GB+ and trouble shoot modules which will hopefully be part of the main game if/when it's released.
2. It's not a game. Let's make that clear now, it's FUN in groups but not something I'd recommend. It's split into several areas just now.
Crusader - Small solar system which you can explore but there's not an enormous amount to do bare a couple of missions and stuff you decide to do on your own, like dodging asteroids and visiting a handful of locations. It is multiplayer though so if you have a couple of friends you can crew a ship (pilot, gunner etc)
Arena commander - single or multiplayer modes like fighting AI, PVP, racing, free flight in different arenas
Arccorp - explore the test planetside town module.
Star Marine - FPS module for testing the pew pew mode mechanics.
3. Insurance currently doesn't matter, if your ship blows up you need to wait a little while to get it back, or alternatively steal someone elses or crew their ship etc. Or stow away on it and kill them mid flight..
Version 3.0 is coming in 4-6 weeks, or there abouts. Honestly suggest holding off until that's here as it changes quite a bit.
If you want to keep up to date BoredGamer is a good source, he trims the fat so you don't have to wade through tons of videos etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evyl3h5hxC4