*****Official Star Wars: The Old Republic Thread*****

I can only assume that the supposed testing thats going on is only at the friends and family stage because if there was any significant public testing going on at the moment there would be some video leaks somewhere.

My sister-in-law has been beta testing this for a while now, just thought I'd share that ;)
 
My sister-in-law has been beta testing this for a while now, just thought I'd share that ;)

And what are the impressions of it so far? How is the PvP? All instanced or is there world PvP too? How long roughly is the levelling, is there a good flow to the levelling or are there long sections , like 20-30 where the quests are very sparse and its tough to level through that section? How are the class skills, balanced or are there fotm in pve and pvp? How is the "crafting"? Useful or no use compared to "drops"?
 
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If I was the investors and had the choice of pushing it out the door in summer and having a higher chance of dodgy initial months or waiting til winter and nailing the game down some more and reducing the chance of dodgy initial months, I will choose the winter release every time.

History teaches us that the other investors would go against you in favour of an earlier release - STO I'm looking at YOU! Having Bioware supports your point, but don't discount the stupidity of moneymen.
 
History teaches us that the other investors would go against you in favour of an earlier release - STO I'm looking at YOU! Having Bioware supports your point, but don't discount the stupidity of moneymen.

Especially since it looks like that's exactly what they've done with Dragon Age 2.
 
History teaches us that the other investors would go against you in favour of an earlier release - STO I'm looking at YOU! Having Bioware supports your point, but don't discount the stupidity of moneymen.

Then I fear we are only going to keep repeating the problems that come from releasing MMOs early.
 
Then I fear we are only going to keep repeating the problems that come from releasing MMOs early.

BTW Tomb you should really try out Rift. It's the first 'finished' mmo I've played in years. Even if the PvP is nothing new, it's worth playing just for the novelty of a proper MMO again, finally :)
 
BTW Tomb you should really try out Rift. It's the first 'finished' mmo I've played in years. Even if the PvP is nothing new, it's worth playing just for the novelty of a proper MMO again, finally :)

Yeah I've looked into it, seems decent enough, however I have now been burned far too many times by the "new release hype" of forums and how people big up a new title, then 2 months later no sod is still playing it. So now I 100% refuse to buy a new MMO until at least 8 weeks after release to see if people are still positive about it or whether once the honeymoon period is over they have all buggered off to another game :)

So if people are still into Rift in May/June, then I will pick it up :)
 
Well most of those games are different Genres, you don't have to worry too much about games coming out at a similar time if they are not going to attract the same audience as your game.

Plus I doubt Guild Wars 2 is going to be ready for release this year so the only MMO they really need to worry about this year would be TERA.

You say that like every person who pays a certain type of game stays exclusively to that genre, Most people who play MMO's are gamers and tend to play other games.

A game no matter what genre does not want to be competing with other games that are guaranteed to sell millions of copies.

Plus the fact of releasing a game in amongst all those releases people can't buy all of them and you force people to choose, A release of swtor in summer does not encounter this problem due to a very small amount of games being released during that time.


I can only assume that the supposed testing thats going on is only at the friends and family stage because if there was any significant public testing going on at the moment there would be some video leaks somewhere.

The testing that has been going on is not family and friends and is actually invite only to people who have signed up on the site (as much as 2 years ago you could).

There have been leaks you just need to know where to look as when they do get leaked to the popular sites youtube for instance they get almost instantly removed, But maybe for once (and this isn't unbelievable) they have actually invited beta testers who have respect for the game and the developer enough not to go leaking every single piece of information.
 
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There have been leaks you just need to know where to look as when they do get leaked to the popular sites youtube for instance they get almost instantly removed, But maybe for once (and this isn't unbelievable) they have actually invited beta testers who have respect for the game and the developer enough not to go leaking every single piece of information.

Well which is it? Testers who are actually leaking if you know where to look , or beta testers for the first time ever who have respect for the game and aren't leaking? :)
 
I gotta say - I am pretty impressed with it so far.

Obviously I've not played it - but from the videos it looks like it's shaping up pretty good...

I'm quite surprised, as I thought it would be pretty naff (This is, of course, coming from a Pre-NGE SWG Vet :p)
 
The game will be released this year that much is certain, Originally bioware had said that they were planning for a spring 2011 release (they have not said this still isn't the case), At an EA investor's conference a month or two ago the game was confirmed as being after the fiscal year 2011 but during calendar year 2011(so from April 1st to December 31st release window).

Delays happen, nothing is for certain. I expect it to get pushed back due to the sheer amount of interest and popularity this game has already, meaning that Bioware can't afford to slip up from Day 1 despite it's a new MMO, which means that the date falling back is quite high. I won't be playing it anyway, unless a Lifetime Subscription option is available, as i like to have a Lifetime Subscription because it turns out to be cheaper for myself and i'm sort of playing the game for free.
 
There seems to be tons of PAX videos on youtube, from what i have seen its clearly not finished yet and dosent seem as open as galaxies but its looking good.

Bounty hunter gameplay (does contain spoilers, so it says)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmIgf005sxw&feature=related

Yeah can certainly see that its got some work left to do, seems to be very little AI at the moment, like at 2:20 where the AI simply stands stationary and shoots, makes no effort to take cover using the crates that he is stood directly in front of. Other points in the video too where instead of attempting to take cover behind crates the AI actually just stands on top of the crates.

Its improved though from a video I saw last year where the player was crouched behind a 3ft high wall and the enemy soldier was stood directly on the other side of the wall, every so often the player would pop up and shoot at the enemy and instead of making an effort to go round the wall the AI simply stood and let the player stand up , shoot, crouch down, stand up, shoot, crouch down over and over until the AI was dead. 2 guys shooting over a wall at each other whilst standing 30 cms apart kind of looked a little like something from Police Squad/Naked Gun :D Good to see thats no longer present, at least not in that video.
 
Question: Turning to Star Wars, obviously very big opportunity for EA and Lucas in the not too distance on future. The game appears to be on track at this point. But can you talk about, where we might expect an open beta, what that involves in terms of time, investment and to then gauge you know, perhaps more specific launch timing and then a follow up to that. What sort of gives you the confidence, that the subscription MMO model is still relevant, given this massive diversion of content on these other platforms?

Eric Brown
: Sure I'll just address timing first and then you know speak to opportunities. So we have for the first time street dated within a date range the Star Wars MMO. So we said it's going to launch sometime in calendar, but not within Fiscal 11. So that basically pens down between you know, April 1st and December 31st of this calendar year. It's also reasonable to infer that it's not in our Q1 guidance. We gave Q1 Fiscal 11, Fiscal 12 non gap revenue guidance, minus 39 minus 44 cents and I think it's not unreasonable to infer that it's not included in that 90 day period. So we've narrowed the window, provided a window for the first time provided on the progress we've made closed beta testing.The next phase will be to expand the beta testing. Up until now it's been kind of the EA friends and family kind of testing program. We need to expand the testing universe to make it more open scalability, back-end systems, etc. Figure out concurrency etc. Where there are choke points on different maps etc., tune it accordingly. We will be increasing the beta. The business is that we have over a million, closer to one and a half million, opted in happy to step up and be beta testers. North of a million demand to do some free testing, I think is a great indicator of the interest level of the franchise. We haven't given specifics as to milestones, but we will move from closed, to semi-closed, to open in preparation for launch. We'll talk more about Star Wars at the coming E3 event.

Looks like October/November may be a good bet.

Also, the confirmation of an open beta can only be a good thing!
 
Is there an official date on open BETA yet? I've not really looked into SWTOR much after my previous BETA invite. Seriously fed up gaming wise atm, nothing really interesting, nothing keeping me hooked :(
 
Nope nothing yet.

According to Eric Brown, they're expanding the testing from friends/family to "semi-closed" beta, then to open beta.

I reckon they'll annouce a release date along with a new cinematic at E3 in June.
 
So judging by that interview, beta testing up until now has actually been at friends and family level after all.

and yet people have posted here and on the swtor forums saying they've tested when they are not connected to EA/Bioware, there was that whole thing on the Swtor forums back in november/december about normal people on the official forums receiving beta invites and asking if the email was for real (it was).
 
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