** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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Agreed, a player of Joe Cole's calibre can easily command a £5m wage packet when he's on a Bosman. If you think about it that's only £15m over the course of a 3 year contract, which is the equivalent of buying someone for £7.5m and then paying them only £50k/week.

But how often are bosman's truly free transfers? I heard somewhere that Goran Pandev got as much as 10m Euro's from Inter as a signing on fee when he signed for them on a 'free'.
 
But how often are bosman's truly free transfers? I heard somewhere that Goran Pandev got as much as 10m Euro's from Inter as a signing on fee when he signed for them on a 'free'.

Well of course you get signing on fees, but that happens with normal transfers as well.

Typically a Bosman player will get a larger signing on fee but then again often that is just an alternative to paying them a huge salary (take Sol Campbell, at one stage he was the highest paid player in the Premiership, because Arsenal negotiated to spread his signing on fee over the length of his contract).
 
The signing on fee is an alternative to a huge salary or a transfer fee? I suspect the latter.

Of course it works out cheaper than signing a player from another club but it's certainly not a free transfer like most people assume.
 
Arsenal have confirmed they have made an approach to sign Fulham goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer.

Wenger wants a new No.1 and this has been confirmed by his pursuit of the Australian custodian.

Despite being 37, the former Middlesbrough shot-stopper, is still considered one of the Premier League's best and he played a huge part in Fulham's resurgence in the past couple of seasons.

Now Wenger is hoping he can strike a deal with Fulham, although they have rebuffed Arsenal's opening advances.

"We have made an enquiry for him and they are not prepared to sell him so we have gone away," Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood told the Daily Star.

"We can only hope they will change their minds, but at the moment it doesn't look like it."

Meanwhile, Hill-Wood has also confirmed that Arsenal will not be meeting the demands of William Gallas - who is out-of-contract at the end of this month.

The French international wants at least a two-year deal, which goes against Arsenal policy as they generally do not offer more than 12-month contracts to players over 30.

At 32, Gallas has only been offered a one-year extension - which he has thus far refused to sign.

"He is asking for too much for too long," he said.

"Players are going to have to learn some time that money doesn't grow on trees."

I think he'd be a great signing for Arsenal, had he not been more or less the same age as VDS I'd want him as the big Dutchman's replacement when Edwin calls it a day

One of the best keepers in the league over the last couple of seasons :)
 
^ Take it almunia aint good enoough anymore?

Mark Schwarzer, very good goalkeeper. Never gets the credit he deserves.
 
Kuyt and Masch supposedly off to Inter in a deal worth £33 million. I would take that if it was on the table. SO long as all proceeds went to other players.
 
^^That's interesting though to be fair not really anything new. Hopefully we will focus on getting another CB or two considering now two have left. While we do need a new keeper (and for one or both to leave) I feel a good defence with adequate backups would serve the side better.
 
Both for £33million? If Loserfool decline that then they are bunch of fools. :p

Proof that Rafa is clueless though, you'd of thought he of had enough of the best defensive striker in the world after having him at Liverpool :p
 
Rafa loves Kuyt though. Let's not forget his excellent work rate.

I do like Kuyt though and will be sad to see him go, but with £33 million for both of them it could be a good bit of business.

And the thing with Masch is if he wants to go then he should go, we cannot have any lacklustre people in the team moving forward and anyone who wants to go should go.
 
^ Take it almunia aint good enoough anymore?

Mark Schwarzer, very good goalkeeper. Never gets the credit he deserves.

Seems like a stop gap signing. At 37 we are only going to have to replace him in a season or two. I am sure there are some great gaolies available. Maybe he thinks fubbles (could be either of our goalies :p) will improve over the next season or two?

Personally I think this is the position people should pay the big money. £20m on the best goalie available would do me fine.
 
Just read this in an Arsenal blog and I had to laugh. :D

So here we are on the eve of the World Cup and naturally enough a lot of the focus is on that. Arsene Wenger is out in South Africa ready with a bag of 5ps to sign any defender that looks like he can stay upright for 90 minutes
 
Seems like a stop gap signing. At 37 we are only going to have to replace him in a season or two. I am sure there are some great goalies available. Maybe he thinks fubbles (could be either of our goalies :p) will improve over the next season or two?

Wojciech Szczesny is the man.
 
Agh, forgot about the witty Irishman!

The guy's awesome, I hope him (and Holland) win just so he can ask what the **** that useless paper churns out these days.

Wojciech Szczesny is the man.

There's a Youtube video of him out there (means nothing really) that shows some of his good saves. Hopefully he can bring such form into the Premiership in a few years, hell we're due a bit of luck from our reserves.
 
But how often are bosman's truly free transfers? I heard somewhere that Goran Pandev got as much as 10m Euro's from Inter as a signing on fee when he signed for them on a 'free'.

yes, I've been saying that for some time. Sol was one of the first big wage Bosman signings, today big wages are normal and 100k is nothing, Joe Cole would be looking for a very large signing on fee.

People can choose to be ignorant, or accept the fact clubs talk with players without permission meaning Joe Cole would have had several options on the table 6 months ago, speak a few clubs, find some deals, work out that he can save a club a transfer fee if he doesn't sign a contract and in saving them X amount in transfer fee they will give him 50% of X as a signing on bonus. Club saves money, player makes a killing.

Sol also got a large signing on fee but the 15-20million he would have cost if he was under contract, a large portion of that became wages and I have fairly little doubt he would have spoken to clubs indirectly to know he could get a better deal if he waited out his contract.




Schwarzer is a great keeper, but at 37, even if he's fit enough that doesn't mean he'll choose to continue playing. He might be fit enough to play til 42 but decide after a single season of intense media pressure at a higher club that he just wants to retire. Considering they've said no to our initial approach it might take a decent fee to prise him off them, and thats a huge risk for someone who will probably just retire in a year or two.

Basically absolutely and utterly ridiculous short term and expensive attempt to fix our keeper situation. Almunia will never be good enough and is almost done anyway, Fab hasn't shown any signs of being good enough for a top 4 club. We can spend 10-20mil on a quality younger keeper now, or pay more in a few years when they are even more proven.

Lloris, Akinfeev, they'd cost a decent amount but, are fairly well proven to be better than what we have, have a decade + ahead of them, have massive resale value, infact if they got even better in 4-5 years if we found a cheapo keeper we could sell on one of them for a huge profit aswell as have them for years inbetween without constantly changing keepers.

http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/38017/Wenger_pulled_out_of_deal_for_Russian_Number_1.aspx


According to that, we full well could afford a decent keeper but Wenger again decided at the last second it wasn't required, at that point less people were interested, Shay Given injured and 34, no where near the end but City could decide to go for a big star name, Utd look like they need someone long term.

Fact is in the past 10 years we've missed out on a bunch of times we could have gotten Schwarzer, Shay Given, freidal, all essentially ridiculously cheap players that we could have gotten many years use out of who are all far better than what we have. Now he's going for one of them, 3-4 years too late in a completely pointless move that will help nothing.

Defences are built around long term keepers, chopping and changing every couple years helps no one and costs a lot of money.
 
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