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** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here
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26. But he could also stay like that, always getting injured. Decent player, but not £20m worth.
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He's 26. Was he all that good for Roma? All I ever really heard of him was that he gets injured quite frequently, I've never really watched him play though apart from where Arsenal beat Liverpool twice last season, I think he only played one of the games due to injury, can't quite remember.
Quite good for Roma, there's a reason they wanted £20m for him. He has an immense passing range and amazing technique, very much like Alonso but much more lightweight and probably a bit more attacking. Can't help but get the feeling he went to the wrong team though (and league really ..), we'll see what happens with Roy. He has the potential to be amazing, all the right attributes, but quite injury prone as everybody knows.
Might have been a reason they wanted £20m, but there's also a reason Liverpool were the only club to be prepared to pay that much
I think because of injuries and the fact he's not THAT young, he could become better, but I'd be surprised if he becomes near world class.
Maybe not so much Ibrahimovic - but Kaka (and Ronaldo) have won far more than Fabregas has, no reason at all why he should be listed at £55m (especially as Febregas will only leave to join one club, so not even any counter offers will be relevant)
Value is only because of "showing a lot of promise" rather than actually won stuff at club level, he would easily be worht £55 - 60m if there was a CL win / several EPL titles under his belt, but there arent
Whether Arsenal fans want to admit this or not, its how the market works
He's just won the world cup and provided the pass that Xavi couldn't for 120 minutes :s He can clearly win things. I have to say I've never considered your point as it makes no sense to me. I have no idea how Arsenal as a team affect an induvidual's price, especially when Arsenal are clearly in a transition phase as a club due to building a new stadium. No offence but it just doesn't make sense to me, they're paying money for what he can win with Barca, not what he has for Arse :s They're paying for him to go to Barca, not his medals to go to Barca (even still, the WC is the most important one of all and he's got that a few weeks ago)
Edit - Is the reason Ferguson bombed 30m on Rooney, Ferdinand and Berbatov because of their amazing trophy hauls :s?
Edit - Is the reason Ferguson bombed 30m on Rooney, Ferdinand and Berbatov because of their amazing trophy hauls :s?
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I personally think medals have absolutely nothing to do with it. I think Fabregas is going to be the best midfielder in the world in 2 or 3 years, and is in the top 3 or 5 now, that's why he's worth a lot of money, and has 5 years on his contract and is impossible to replace
Have no idea why you thought that's what I was saying. Surely what I was saying proved it was garbage. A bit part player can get a medal, anybody can get a medal, it proves nothing. Performances prove everything.
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Nope, simple answer in the Rooney/Ferdinand instance is that they are English, English = inflated prices not to mention that Rooney was star in the making and we got him cheap, Ferdinand was the best young English centre back, hence the price tag and also that Leeds were trying to make as much as possible.
Berbatov, well that was just Spurs being Spurs.
He's listed at X value because thats what Arsenal want. They have no reason to sell, and don't need the money.
So you reckon if Henry had put away a chance in 2006, Cesc Fabregas would be worth X million more? So Djimi Traoré should be worth millions then, after all he has a Champions League medal...
I agree completely but then why did you mention that he has just won the most important medal of them all
Well let Arsenal be Arsenal
Fabregas is by far the best yound midfielder in the world, and the scary thing is he adds a new thing to his game every year, he's going to get better and better as he's that type of player. Barcelona are paying for his ability.I agree completely but then why did you mention that he has just won the most important medal of them all
Dunno, FrankJH was saying Fabregas is worth less because he has no medals, I reminded him that he won the most important medal there is a few days ago.
Again you're missing the point, Arsenal can want what they like for him, he's only worth what Barca want to pay for him.
If he wants to go Arsenal will take what they can for him reather than have him sat there ****ed off for another season.
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I still don't see why the majority of people here say Xavi is a better player than Fabregas when last season Fabregas played less games than Xavi but still out scored and out assisted him for club and country. The stats are on ESPN's website and I can't be bothered to look for them, but they are there. I brought that up before and got told that stats are useless but it seems they are only useless when they don't fit certain people's arguments and ideas.
Arsenal are not as good a team as Barcelona, Fabregas plays in a weaker team in a more competitive league and managed more goals and more assists in less appearances than Xavi who plays in a team surrounded by the best players in the world.
I agree with what Gimp is saying though, Barcelona are the only team he will move to, making all other bids from any other club absolutely irrelevant, City would probably pay £70-80 million, maybe more, but he won't play for them so it's a pointless piece of speculation. He's certainly worth more than £30,000,000 in my opinion but then if Barcelona only want to pay that much, and he only wants to move to them then that's all we are going to get. It's either that or tell them year after year to up their price while we have an increasingly frustrated Fabregas. I don't think that's the point we are at yet, but next summer that could be where we are.
Arsenal are not as good a team as Barcelona, Fabregas plays in a weaker team in a more competitive league and managed more goals and more assists in less appearances than Xavi who plays in a team surrounded by the best players in the world.
I agree with what Gimp is saying though, Barcelona are the only team he will move to, making all other bids from any other club absolutely irrelevant, City would probably pay £70-80 million, maybe more, but he won't play for them so it's a pointless piece of speculation. He's certainly worth more than £30,000,000 in my opinion but then if Barcelona only want to pay that much, and he only wants to move to them then that's all we are going to get. It's either that or tell them year after year to up their price while we have an increasingly frustrated Fabregas. I don't think that's the point we are at yet, but next summer that could be where we are.
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