** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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anticonscience said:
Man City are fast becoming my most hated football club. I know lets buy everyone so no-one else can.

I hope they fail hard next season.
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Why do you hate us? We are strengthening our team its not our fault no one else is? and other teams could but either choose not to or cant afford to....and that isnt going to happen and if it did we will go and spend more and get a better team :p
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
Why do you hate us? We are strengthening our team its not our fault no one else is? and other teams could but either choose not to or cant afford to....and that isnt going to happen and if it did we will go and spend more and get a better team :p
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Strengthening? Buying a whole new team more like :p at least it's better team players than the last massive spend.
 
Kevin Doyle is apparently worth £50m. When Cesc's offer was for around £30m. World is mad sometimes.

Not bothered about City and the whole 'buying anybody for any price' thing. As an Arsenal fan it annoyed me when UTD could easily outbid us in the 90s, very slightly annoyed at Chelsea in the early 00s, City just doesn't even get me raising an eyelid to be fair.
 
Greenlizard0 said:
Kevin Doyle is apparently worth £50m. When Cesc's offer was for around £30m. World is mad sometimes.

Not bothered about City and the whole 'buying anybody for any price' thing. As an Arsenal fan it annoyed me when UTD could easily outbid us in the 90s, very slightly annoyed at Chelsea in the early 00s, City just doesn't even get me raising an eyelid to be fair.
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I think you can take that quote as an exageration. If he was offered £45m he would certainly consider it ;)
 
jakeke said:
He's just won the world cup and provided the pass that Xavi couldn't for 120 minutes :s He can clearly win things. I have to say I've never considered your point as it makes no sense to me. I have no idea how Arsenal as a team affect an induvidual's price, especially when Arsenal are clearly in a transition phase as a club due to building a new stadium. No offence but it just doesn't make sense to me, they're paying money for what he can win with Barca, not what he has for Arse :s They're paying for him to go to Barca, not his medals to go to Barca (even still, the WC is the most important one of all and he's got that a few weeks ago)

Edit - Is the reason Ferguson bombed 30m on Rooney, Ferdinand and Berbatov because of their amazing trophy hauls :s?
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You have just nicely proven the point why an international cup run DOESNT increase the purchase price of a player, unless he has already won stuff with his club - note Germany having a core of Bayern Munich talent (and younger team players in the "high prospect" position with less important teams....like Arsenal)

One world cup, even after a successful Euros, means didly squat as its 6 games in a row - not forty or fifty (which is what any club manager will look at before trying to propose a major club purchase)

Gooner14 said:
He's listed at X value because thats what Arsenal want. They have no reason to sell, and don't need the money.

So you reckon if Henry had put away a chance in 2006, Cesc Fabregas would be worth X million more? So Djimi Traoré should be worth millions then, after all he has a Champions League medal...
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and if you keep him too long , you wont get sqaut in comparison (as he will run his contract down as far as possible)

Whether you like it or not, he will move to Barca and every year they will offer less and less (as his contract will be worth less), there wont be any bidding war because the whole football world knows he only wants to go to Barca so even if the clubs agree, he wont agree personal terms.

No because you havent come close since - if it was in the last season or two , then yes probably he would be. Its repeated success that proves how good a CLUB player he is, not one instance. For all I know (or care) Traore was a five minute sub, which proves even less how good a player he is (and Traore isnt exactly a central player to the team like Fab is to Arsenal)

jakeke said:
Dunno, FrankJH was saying Fabregas is worth less because he has no medals, I reminded him that he won the most important medal there is a few days ago.
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From a club point of view he won didly squat a few days ago (even if Barca had 50% of the Spainish 1st 11 on the pitch). Ronaldo was so expensive because he won the ballon d'Or etc etc because of the CL, because of the 42 goals in a season, because of X no of EPL titles etc etc. Fabregas has won none of that (hasnt really had a chance to prove himself time after time in the CL semi's and finals, hasnt been that close to the EPL title frequently

Ronaldo is a great example because Fab is as important to Arsenal as Ronaldo was to Utd 2 or 3 seasons ago (as is suspected the deal was agreed with RM long before it actually happened). Yet all the supporters are expecting a comparative price - Im sorry you are fooling yourselves (not to mention the world financial climate which would probably knock off £10 - £20m from Ronaldo's price tag if it happened today)

Ronaldo proved himself by getting the team to win titles (sometimes when the team possibly didnt deserve it)......does the latter ring true for Arsenal fans lol? Has Fab gone that final step......not that Ive seen

Too many "has talent, will improve greatly" players from the past that looked magic in major Int tournements that went on to die in club football, to make Fabregas's 5 minute appearance as a sub in a few games in the Spanish squad built into anything more than "sub appearance against tired legs" lol

G|mp said:
Ignore Frank, he talks rubbish :p
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and of course you never do that, do you!!!
 
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Biz.Kid09 said:
Why do you hate us? We are strengthening our team its not our fault no one else is? and other teams could but either choose not to or cant afford to....and that isnt going to happen and if it did we will go and spend more and get a better team :p
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TBH, most of the footballing world is laughing at City. All that money being thrown about and they're still buying average players.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
Why do you hate us? We are strengthening our team its not our fault no one else is? and other teams could but either choose not to or cant afford to....and that isnt going to happen and if it did we will go and spend more and get a better team :p
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lol enjoy Adebarndoor, hope he repeats the form he showed during almost every other game after the honeymoon period of joining Man ****ty.

If you think Man City are going to go anywhere under Mancini then you're having a laugh. Not to mention paying over the odds for virtually every half decent name. Great business...
 
skippi90 said:
TBH, most of the footballing world is laughing at City. All that money being thrown about and they're still buying average players.
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Only because the 'best players' tend not to move for money now as wages are similar Europe wide due to the relevant taxes so it's mainly personal reasons that engineer a move.
City are however creating the best squad they can, there's no doubt about that.
 
JohnnyG said:
Only because the 'best players' tend not to move for money now as wages are similar Europe wide due to the relevant taxes so it's mainly personal reasons that engineer a move.
City are however creating the best squad they can, there's no doubt about that.
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I think Siddy could end up being a real fly in the ointment next season. When you look at some of the players he has bought, he has gone for some very abrasive, athletic players. Playing against Boateng, De Jong etc will take some beating and not because of their superior skill. They will be a team who will continue to grind out results.

What will dictate how well Siddy do will be Mancini. I am not convinced he is the man to take them from mid table medicority to worthy champions. His record in Italy certainly flatters his ability. Nor am I convinced he is the right man to bring together all these players and make them happy sat on the bench whilst doing double training week in week out.

What I am sure of is that this will all end in tears in typical city fashion
 
Wow. Fulham interested in Big Martin Jol. Would LOVE to see him back in the Prem. If anything, to see if he really was that good. I hope he takes over again when Redknapp leaves.
 
Utd's team against Celtic tonight in Toronto

Team:
VDS
Rafael
Smalling
Evans
Fabio
Obertan
Scholes
Fletcher
Giggs
Berbatov
Diouf

Subs:
Brown
Welbeck
O'Shea
Macheda
Gibson
Kuszcak
De Laet
C Evans
Cleverley

Hoping for Cleverley to start but hey ho
 
right just upgraded my sky package so we'll see how quickly it comes through. i was looking forward to catching some reserve games next season anyway.
 
Loki said:
Utd's team against Celtic tonight in Toronto

Team:
VDS
Rafael
Smalling
Evans
Fabio
Obertan
Scholes
Fletcher
Giggs
Berbatov
Diouf

Subs:
Brown
Welbeck
O'Shea
Macheda
Gibson
Kuszcak
De Laet
C Evans
Cleverley

Hoping for Cleverley to start but hey ho
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I'm sorry but if that team even hopes to win a title you might as well give up 2nd place to city now. Its a pile of balls and not the kicking type! and old and useless balls at that
 
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