** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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Adebayor is top class when he tries and runs about, but a total monster when he's being lazy and getting caught offside 10+ times per game, complete 2 face
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Yeh skippe lol tell me about it
K1LLSW1TCH-Your right sometimes he can be arsed mostly not....hey Balotelli is soon to be joining! :p
Skippi hes still coming back from injury...he was injured for ages...came back and scored a cracking goal against scunhorpe...and then got injured again but he has been in pre season training and hopefully we get to see him this season...
His goal against scunny:http://www.caughtoffside.com/2009/1...***horpe-united-carling-cup-highlights-video/ around 6min in
Irelands played well in that game as well :p
 
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BaZ87 said:
Without being rude, you haven't got a clue.

Yes anybody buying the Yanks debt will have to honour the terms of the agreement however, the very best case scenario for them is that the agreement expires in October but it's very possible that the loan has already expired.

For 1 reason or another RBS have failed to call the loan in on several occasions and we've been left in a situation where H&G have stuck to their sky high asking price. If however a potential bidder for the club buys the debt then H&G's asking price will have to become more realistic or risk losing the club and £m's in guarantees.

As for them going cap in hand to other banks looking to refinance; been their, done that and been told to **** off.

The reason why the club is for sale is simply because no bank is willing to lend them the amounts of money they need to keep hold of the club.
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REally, because to other people its seemed like LIverpool were for sale about, at most, 25 minutes after H&G signed the papers to sign the club. They want to turn the club over for a profit, and so what its a business, they are businessmen, its what they do.

However to this point they haven't been willing to settle, you seemed to AGAIN miss the major point. RIght now they AREN'T being forced to sell, or settle, which means they also aren't going begging to banks offering good terms themselves. Loans are a two sided coin remember, people taking them out can choose better deals or turn down ones that aren't great. Again try not missing the point, till now they've had the option to turn them down.

IF this guy buys up the debt and changes their options, it also changes their actions and they will be much more willing to accept a much worse loan offer, but that still gets them a loan.

Buying someones debt in no way forces them to sell the club to the debt owner instantly.

You don't know the terms of the loan deal and why RBS haven't taken control of the club already, and neither do I, I don't pretend to however.

I haven't said they won't sell to this guy, I'm just saying a lot of press, and fans, seem to think its the only option, its not, and its incredibly daft to suggest so.

Remember also that many clubs spread out the assets, create parent and sister companies and laden the loans on separate parts of the company, again I have no idea what the situation is at Liverpool, though most clubs have some ludicrous amount of various companies, for a whole bunch of different reasons.

This is all ignoring the other things I pointed out you didn't mention, like for instance, unlike CHelsea who had no one to compete with their spending, LIverpool aren't close to in the same situation as Chelsea when they were taken over(squad quality, league position, competitions quality level), their spending can only buy so many players, most of the top players are at clubs that are more competitive in their various leagues, on silly money already..... who are they going to buy and how are they going to persaude them to come.

Can they get Messi, Villa, Ronaldo, Rooney, Drogba, Tevez, Silva, Muller, Xavi, Fabregas, Puyol, Alves, Maicon, etc, etc, etc...... no, they haven't a chance in hell at getting any of them. WIth all the billions in the world, they can't buy realistically, any of the top 30-40 players in the world right now, its almost, well, too late. I mean city have billions to spend and they've bought very few truly worlds top players, because teams have those guys already
 
I reckon if this deal does go through then i can see Milner going to Liverpool and forming a good partnership with cole and Gerrard....as to who else they buy is a mystery as we have pretty much bought everyone good who is avaliable...
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http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/new...oan-in-order-to-save-money-article543823.html
Can Harry just beep off hes not getting Bellamy...and why do they need to save money? you get 20m+ for finishing 4th dont ya? plus the money from champions league :/
Has anyone seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3YuyLYUdv8&feature=player_embedded that is crazy lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmnSR0LwiS8&feature=player_embedded#! and lol quite funny
This is amazing if real tbh-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYu5bnNPEms&feature=player_embedded#!
 
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Source: Daily Mail

AC Milan want to snap up Spurs midfielder Giovani dos Santos and are offering striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar in a swap deal.

The Italians are aware of Harry Redknapp's desire to bring in a top class hitman ahead of his side's debut Champions League campaign.

Redknapp is even ready to shunt Peter Crouch out of the door to fund a move for a new frontman.

That has alerted AC Milan and they are keen to use former Real Madrid man Huntelaar as bait to capture dos Santos. The little Mexican has failed to impress since moving to White Hart Lane from Barcelona for £5m in 2008.

He was loaned out to Ipswich and Galatasaray but was a roaring success for his country in the World Cup.

Dos Santos caused opponents massive problems playing on the right wing and was nominated for FIFA's young player of the tournament award.

Redknapp has long been interested in a move for Huntelaar despite a return of seven goals in 21 league games for the Rossaneri.

The Italians paid Real Madrid £14m for his services a year ago but accept his value has dropped since that deal. And they believe Dos Santos is currently undervalued by Spurs and are keen to build their attacking play around the tricky youngster.
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More rubbish from the Daily Fail.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
Are you enjoying Adebayor? I bet the City fans think he was worth every penny of the £25,000,000.

Suckers. :p
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he has scored 14 goals in 26 games. which for a man city player is quite high.

i reckon he was worth the money, since he got them to 5th place from wherever they were before.

tevez no doubt was worth the money too.

santa cruz on the other hand was not.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
he has scored 14 goals in 26 games. which for a man city player is quite high.

i reckon he was worth the money, since he got them to 5th place from wherever they were before.

tevez no doubt was worth the money too.

santa cruz on the other hand was not.
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Yeh i dont reckon it was that bad a return tbh...i would have paid 100m for Tevez :)...yeh i know tell me about it...hope Hughes signs him
 
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As I said, you don't have a clue.

You're missing the point that they are being pressured into selling the club. So much so that the only reason they've been given the current extension (and it's unclear whether a formal extension has been given too) was because they've handed over control of the club and the sale to Barclays/Broughton and the Liverpool board. Barclays/Broughton will present the board with an offer and the board will vote to decide whether the bid is accepted (the board consisting of Purslow, Ayre, Broughton, H&G); H&G cannot directly block the sale of the club.

Within reason the club has been for sale ever since the Yanks took over yet at an unrealistic price (gave a valuation of £1bn a few months after completing the purchase of the club). Remember a £500m+ bid was turned down the other year. Their primary objective has been to hold onto the club for as long as possible, bring on a minority investor and get the stadium built as they've known all along that's where the serious money is. However if somebody offers them stupid money of course they'll walk away.

With every refinance/extension of the current loan, H&G have given up more and more control of the club. They have tried and failed to find a minority investor or another bank to refinance the loan.

Unless something dramatic happens very soon, the club will be sold and H&G will have very little say on the matter.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
But seriously he didnt do that bad 14 in 26 games isnt bad at all for his first season....
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Yeh funnily enough for Arsenal when Henry left he scored a ton of goals but promptly disappeared in the following season...it was great seeing City take him off us for £25mill...suckers indeed:p...lets see how many goals he scores this season if any at all.
 
Andybtsn said:
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Thought Fulham would jump at that, he's better than what you have at the mo, a lot better.
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Santa Cruz? He was ok at Blackburn, done nothing at Man City, and not really the type of player we need, Zamora is the starter and for the other big guy we have Elm/Dempsey backing up. If we got him for say £2-4m i'd be OK with it, but we won't. I'd much rather have Bellamy with Johnson. The most ideal striker, which we were strongly linked with but haven't heard anything is Carew.

Oh and Santa Cruz is on £90k/week or something, we barely pay over £40k - which is probably where a long contract for Bellamy will probably come in.
 
Right now I'd prefer Zamora to RSC, at least Zamora will play!

Hleb would be excellent for Fulham, still got a lot of love for him, he was my favourite player to watch a few years ago, an absolute pleasure to watch.
 
Jebus, you can't judge Santa Cruz on his stint at Man C, he's been plagued by injury and then was behind 5 strikers. He's a great target man if you have good crosser. Bentley and Santa Cruz were superb for Blackburn, he'd be great at a smaller club.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
If we finished 5th last year with that team then we can defo get top 4 this year.
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With so many changes to the 1st XI, nothing is gaurenteed

You may well win the first few games and be top of the league at one point - but it takes real togetherness and willingness to really play for each other consistantly for 38 games/season - that takes a long time to mould into a squad , without even considering the amount of changes, and players coming from different clubs/leagues let alone the egos involved

I personally would also watch out for Tevez's 2nd season syndrome - always great in the 1st season anywhere , but gets less enthusiastic and more mouthy in the 2nd

Think 'Arry is doing the best thing - getting one or two players in to strengthen/freshen the squad up without changing the charachter of it that did so well last year.

They may or may not be any good - but its also worth considering that its unlikely Liverpool will be as woeful as they were last season Citeh/Spurs would have been fighting over 5th/6th if it wasnt for them, and Everton are usually around that kind of place in the table too (might not have a huge squad or any real mega-stars, but they seem to punch above their weight most of the time quite happily)

Nothing in the game of football is ever a foregone conclusion
 
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Arsenal and Manchester United's hopes of signing Germany World Cup star Mesut Ozil were boosted after the midfielder told his club Werder Bremer to lower their £16m asking price.
Full story: Daily Star

Dont see why we keep getting linked to Ozil. He has great potential but we have loads of great potential in that position already. Would be a great signing for Utd though.

Where are the CB's and that worldclass GK?
 
FrankJH said:
With so many changes to the 1st XI, nothing is gaurenteed

You may well win the first few games and be top of the league at one point - but it takes real togetherness and willingness to really play for each other consistantly for 38 games/season - that takes a long time to mould into a squad , without even considering the amount of changes, and players coming from different clubs/leagues let alone the egos involved

I personally would also watch out for Tevez's 2nd season syndrome - always great in the 1st season anywhere , but gets less enthusiastic and more mouthy in the 2nd

Think 'Arry is doing the best thing - getting one or two players in to strengthen/freshen the squad up without changing the charachter of it that did so well last year.

They may or may not be any good - but its also worth considering that its unlikely Liverpool will be as woeful as they were last season Citeh/Spurs would have been fighting over 5th/6th if it wasnt for them, and Everton are usually around that kind of place in the table too (might not have a huge squad or any real mega-stars, but they seem to punch above their weight most of the time quite happily)

Nothing in the game of football is ever a foregone conclusion
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I never guaranteed it i said that we can definitely get top 4 with our team....eg its strong enough to get top 4 and above...
 
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