** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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jakeke said:
Shocked at what people think of Hleb. His ability on the ball is staggering and he's technically better than any Liverpool player (as I believe he was at Arsenal), he was my favourite player whilst at Arsenal, he's the type of footballer you pay to watch, an absolute pleasure to watch. True quality.
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You mean you are shocked by DM's comments? :p

I loved having Hleb in the team and would welcome him back and Flam. Would give us exactly the sort of players we need. Strong experienced player on the wing and a real DM who scores goals.

Oh yeah and a few CB's and a GK would be nice too ;)
 
Bebe was an impulse buy says Fergi
http://bit.ly/9JFVU5

Sir Alex Ferguson has acknowledged that the decision to sign Bébé for £7.4m represented something of an impulse purchase, saying that Manchester United would normally spend more time scouting a player before making an approach.

"It is one of those things that happens when you identify someone with potential," said Ferguson. "Normally you would assess someone over a longer period of time but other clubs were starting to have a look so we made a quick decision.

"He doesn't speak any English, so that needs to be addressed, and we need to allow him to settle in but sometimes you have to work on an impulse."
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Guys, do the math, right now Berbatov is on 244k a week, if you classify a deal the way the papers are doing with city.

Transfer fee + wages for all years of contract averaged over length of contract.

Berbatov 100k a week(guessing) x 4 years, 20mil, +30mil transfer /208 weeks = 244k a week.

Yaya is probably on a 200k a week deal thats classified in the same way, and Zlatan 500k a week deal probably includes a good 70-80mil transfer fee as Barca probably just realised they paid 60mil and gave away a 50mil euro striker, in a deal that when totted up probably averages out to over 500k a week themselves (60mil + 50mil Eto'o + 100k a week wages on a 5 year contract = well over 500k a week on average).

THis is the problem to date, every other deal is just transfer fee and ignore the wages, City started to play in the big boys league and suddenly every deal is transfer fee + wages.

Remember people talking about Adebayor's £80mil deal, wages + transfer fee added together. Now the shocking way to do it is make that number and then average it into a weekly fee(which becomes hugely less if said player signs a new contract or leaves for a big fee).

Its a joke, and the papers are just trying to make City's spending look more shocking, however as said, take ANY big Chelsea/Utd/Liverpool deal and do the same thing and the City deals don't look very big. Torres + wages + contract averaged out = a lot more than 100k a week.
 
its another example of a terrible bit of business by fergie tbh.

for a team that plays 1 striker most of the time, spending 7.5 on hernandez and then antoher similar amount on Bebe when its really our decrepit and aged midfield that needs fixing? i dont understand

but also the timing and negotiation were clearly calamatous.

buy him 5 weeks previous and you save 7 million. negotiate with the club you might save something. but to just go in and recklessly pay his contract release clause. ill just never understand it.

will he be the next Dong? the next manucho? the next rossi or even the next macheda?

IF we sell berba for 15 mill in the next 48 hours i might show some understanding. if not then the whole transfer makes no sense to me. IF he is the new 'ronaldo' how come we only found this out in the last 5 weeks after he changed clubs but hasnt played a competative match yet?
 
Does anybody know how much this kid cost when bought from the 3rd division side? Can't have been much over a few hundred G's, so in 5 weeks they've probably made 7m
 
jakeke said:
Shocked at what people think of Hleb. His ability on the ball is staggering and he's technically better than any Liverpool player (as I believe he was at Arsenal), he was my favourite player whilst at Arsenal, he's the type of footballer you pay to watch, an absolute pleasure to watch. True quality.
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Hleb always seemed to be a dangerous player whenever I saw him play for Arsenal, he just seemed a bit shot shy at times. He would get into an excellent attacking position and then pass to someone else rather than have a shot himself.
 
Moses99p said:
I've read his old club failed to pay him, so he could walk from there... then this other club signed him up on a five year deal... then Manyoo came along and stumped up his fee release clause.
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hahaha all their christmasses just came at once then. 7.4m for 5 weeks of employing one player. He didn't even play a game!

Peg said:
Hleb always seemed to be a dangerous player whenever I saw him play for Arsenal, he just seemed a bit shot shy at times. He would get into an excellent attacking position and then pass to someone else rather than have a shot himself.
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Aye, he actually preferred the assist/beautiful pass more than scoring himself which I think is credible, until he started passing when he had a better chance to shoot than the man he was passing too, then it became a bit annoying, but still, the fluidity he brings to the side is amazing. I might just go and youtube him, I miss watching his nonchalant and silky ways
 
Supposedly Quieroz saw the kid, phoned Fergie and said do whatever you need to do, sign him, right the heck now.

Its unlikely anyone, Real or Utd knew who he was till he got snapped up and probably got some preseason games against bigger clubs which sparked off scouts, if it takes 3 weeks and a couple games to get Real and Utd scrambling to pay 7mil to get him, he probably is as promising as someone like Ronaldo was at the same age, if you get a Ronaldo quality player for 7mil, its good business, even if its just to sell on.

7mil, honestly, to Utd is very little, if he's got the potential to be an 80mil player, and help win titles inbetween its a steal.


AS for Hleb, I can't believe an Arsenal fan can rate him alongside Cesc, RVP, or frankly any top player, Arsenal played an incredibly different level of "pretty" football before Hleb arrived, Pires made Hleb look like a chump, Hleb can run on the ball, a bit, and then do nothing at the end, the amount of times he ran 20 yards, looked up and was surrounded by 5 players was hilarious, then the panicked awful pass backwards that accompanied 90% of the stuff he did at Arsenal.

Technically, he could run into a stupid position better than anyone else at Arsenal, he couldn't cross AT ALL, he wasn't a good passer, he had an incredibly weak and crap shot, he can't tackle. Technically, passing, shooting, crossing are what make a winger, to describe him as the best technical player at Arsenal is serious, serious delusion. The fact that Hleb's arrival sparked the golden age or not being able to win a damn thing at Arsenal, playing worse football, conceding posession and prefering to play the safe pass, there weren't many players at the club worse than him.
 
There's got to be something dodgy about this Man Utd transfer. I mean, sure, it's not unlike managers to sign a random nobody or a bit of money, but that much, that quickly after he's switched clubs? I'd bet on his agent having 'contacts' or something equally fishy. Just doesn't sit right with me.
 
Ferguson has probably been tipped off by Queiroz, it's still a really bizarre transfer and completely not what we needed right now. £7m is a complete joke, how on earth could his transfer command such a fee? It's madness. :p
 
Linoge said:
Ferguson has probably been tipped off by Queiroz, it's still a really bizarre transfer and completely not what we needed right now. £7m is a complete joke, how on earth could his transfer command such a fee? It's madness. :p
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I think fergie has a massive amount of respect for queiroz which may explain part of it. When queiroz was at united he was fantastic. Not been the same without him.
 
Hmm I don't think it's all down to Queiroz leaving, I just think everything alligned for a few years for Man Utd (football runs in cycles etc.) and he was part of it just like everybody else at the club was!
 
Linoge said:
Ferguson has probably been tipped off by Queiroz, it's still a really bizarre transfer and completely not what we needed right now. £7m is a complete joke, how on earth could his transfer command such a fee? It's madness. :p
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It was the release clause apparently, so clearly Ferguson didn't want to bother negotiating, and just thought he'd get him ASAP, which is another reason it all seems so odd. It's not like MU wouldn't have the pulling power to keep the player interested while they negotiated a lower price.

All I'm saying is if it turned out his agent was Paul Stretford, I would not be the least bit surprised. :p
 
SAF confirms Bebe's a winger. "He's quick, 2-footed, raw material but I'm sure we can work with that". Doesn't speak English. Nani will help

- BenHibbs

That was from this mornings press conference.

"We have good options anyway in the wide positions, in Nani and Valencia in particular starting to show maturity. We’ve got Ryan Giggs, Gabriel Obertan, Tom Cleverley, so we’re okay there. It’s a different type of player, maybe, but we’ll see what he does once he settles. The important thing is to get him integrated into the club and get him to understand what the club’s about. We’re not in a rush with him, there’s no need to rush him."

So there, he isn't a striker, apparently. Also read people who have seen him play say the same.

Source: http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6651360
 
drunkenmaster said:
Guys, do the math, right now Berbatov is on 244k a week, if you classify a deal the way the papers are doing with city.

Transfer fee + wages for all years of contract averaged over length of contract.

Berbatov 100k a week(guessing) x 4 years, 20mil, +30mil transfer /208 weeks = 244k a week.

Yaya is probably on a 200k a week deal thats classified in the same way, and Zlatan 500k a week deal probably includes a good 70-80mil transfer fee as Barca probably just realised they paid 60mil and gave away a 50mil euro striker, in a deal that when totted up probably averages out to over 500k a week themselves (60mil + 50mil Eto'o + 100k a week wages on a 5 year contract = well over 500k a week on average).

THis is the problem to date, every other deal is just transfer fee and ignore the wages, City started to play in the big boys league and suddenly every deal is transfer fee + wages.

Remember people talking about Adebayor's £80mil deal, wages + transfer fee added together. Now the shocking way to do it is make that number and then average it into a weekly fee(which becomes hugely less if said player signs a new contract or leaves for a big fee).

Its a joke, and the papers are just trying to make City's spending look more shocking, however as said, take ANY big Chelsea/Utd/Liverpool deal and do the same thing and the City deals don't look very big. Torres + wages + contract averaged out = a lot more than 100k a week.
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Drunkenmaster you might indeed have a point that newspapers are incorporating the transfer fee and/or signing on fee in the weekly wages to inflate the suggested price of deals involving Balotelli or Ibrahimovic.

However irrespective of the price Man City paid Barca for his services, Yaya Touré is actually getting paid £200,000 per week + a 10% appearance fee, so potentially £220k a week!!
Presumably because he was aware he'd be in the 50% tax band and thus demanded 100k a week after tax (so he wouldn't be taking an effective pay cut, given that tax on players in Spain was a lot lower until this season)....
 
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