** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here
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Can't really see how more serie A is going to help him sort his game for the prem ... Does that mean 'unwilling to risk' as in he's not fit enough, or good enough?
Hopefully your right, but i dont rate a lot about our club at the moment so i wouldnt be surprised.
I dont like or rate RH at all, same with his signings (Was sceptical about Cole and so far he has also proven to be somewhat crappy, there's very few people better then Gerrard in that position which would be available for less then stupid money, but plenty who can move into midfield and do the job Gerrard has to do there now which would make us stronger overall, theres a reason Chelsea only played Cole on the wings).
Overall not looking forward to the next game
I dont like or rate RH at all, same with his signings (Was sceptical about Cole and so far he has also proven to be somewhat crappy, there's very few people better then Gerrard in that position which would be available for less then stupid money, but plenty who can move into midfield and do the job Gerrard has to do there now which would make us stronger overall, theres a reason Chelsea only played Cole on the wings).
Overall not looking forward to the next game
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Remember, the important thing is he gets first team games, if he's inconsistant(he is) and not dependable, you don't want to give him 6 months first team just to find out he's crap, but have his performances hurt the team. Put it this way, if he's not going to be playing, playing 1st team games at Juve is about 17000% more useful than playing in reserve games with crap players, with little competition with kids.
So its a better situation by far, even if you are paying his wages, at least the loan gives him a chance to become the player he might be, if he gets form back, he comes back and helps you next year, otherwise you'd still be paying him, but in a year he'll still be useless, also playing for Juve he might get interest enough to make an ok amount of money back if you sold him, rotting in the reserves you'd make a huge loss selling him next year. ITs better whichever way you look at it, unless you think he's brilliant right now and should be starting, I saw entirely no evidence of that last year. If you make money off it aswell, it just gets better. Remember Carson was considered a player who was back up and decent enough, and him going out on loan was changing the clubs plans somewhat. When a team takes a non working player whose destined for the bench, its not quite the same situation. I reckon theres likely to be no "fee" for the loan but they'll be paying some/all of his wages.
Funnily enough, it would appear, having been warned personally, publically to not go after Schwarzer, then Wenger, Mr " Barcelona have no respect, we told them he wasnt for sale and they still tried to get him" , turned around and yet again did exactly the same thing he was complaining about.
This is why I wasn't even slightly irked by Barca's "bad behaviour" because Arsenal and every single club in the world do the exact same things and Wengers done it on numerous occasions, which having known that made his "we won't even talk to them because they upset us so badly" crap that Wenger and his higher ups were spouting utterly ridiculous sounding in the first place.
So its a better situation by far, even if you are paying his wages, at least the loan gives him a chance to become the player he might be, if he gets form back, he comes back and helps you next year, otherwise you'd still be paying him, but in a year he'll still be useless, also playing for Juve he might get interest enough to make an ok amount of money back if you sold him, rotting in the reserves you'd make a huge loss selling him next year. ITs better whichever way you look at it, unless you think he's brilliant right now and should be starting, I saw entirely no evidence of that last year. If you make money off it aswell, it just gets better. Remember Carson was considered a player who was back up and decent enough, and him going out on loan was changing the clubs plans somewhat. When a team takes a non working player whose destined for the bench, its not quite the same situation. I reckon theres likely to be no "fee" for the loan but they'll be paying some/all of his wages.
Funnily enough, it would appear, having been warned personally, publically to not go after Schwarzer, then Wenger, Mr " Barcelona have no respect, we told them he wasnt for sale and they still tried to get him" , turned around and yet again did exactly the same thing he was complaining about.
This is why I wasn't even slightly irked by Barca's "bad behaviour" because Arsenal and every single club in the world do the exact same things and Wengers done it on numerous occasions, which having known that made his "we won't even talk to them because they upset us so badly" crap that Wenger and his higher ups were spouting utterly ridiculous sounding in the first place.
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Yes but there's a massive difference between stating an 'interest' for a player (which is what all teams do), to being downright classless and getting the team members themselves to come out with utter tosh e.g. the 'dna' malarky (which the Spanish giants have been known to do).
You aren't talking about a player who is a youngster trying to break through, or a fringe player per say. AA was a fairly high profile transfer who had some bad luck with injuries and would obviously need some time to get used to culture/league/weather etc. and hasn't really been given that. Regards to form and match fitness I'd agree with you, but surely its better to take a risk on a player you've already shelled out for instead of being so damn pragmatic. This is a side that wants to get back into the champions league. Without the cash id personally see them risk what they have as opposed to protecting their 'investment'
edit: and to disagree with you again, Schwarzer/arsenal fab/barca is hardly the same is it?
Has there been a relentless pursuit?, daily press releases regarding schwarzer love for the gunners? or rvp/song/arsharavin et al all weeping about how wonderful he is?
No, a player has had his head turned by a bigger club. Said club have made a few offers
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Yeah four year deal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8932930.stm
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6651537
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This is the sort of thing you might do 'if' you are checking out the player. But this isnt what you do 'after' paying £20m odd for him.
Surely they know whether he is good enough or not before they buy him. They must rate the player or they wouldnt have spent that money on him.
Sounds ridiculous business imho
But as it's liverpool I don't mind
Ignoring trophies won by players before they joined the club (and stuff like Community Shield etc):
Clichy: Premiership, FA Cup
Song: ACoN
RvP: FA Cup
Fabregas: FA Cup, Euro2008, WC2010
Almunia: FA Cup
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Fabregas is French?
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And Hodgson has reportedly rubbished the Kuyt to Inter stories which is not surprise. More interestingly though is that Hodgson has supposedly spoke to Massimo Moratti and Inter won't be signing any Liverpool players which makes the likelihood of Masch leaving even less
It would also make the Poulsen signing and Aquilani going out on loan even stranger though :/
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And Hodgson has reportedly rubbished the Kuyt to Inter stories which is not surprise. More interestingly though is that Hodgson has supposedly spoke to Massimo Moratti and Inter won't be signing any Liverpool players which makes the likelihood of Masch leaving even less
It would also make the Poulsen signing and Aquilani going out on loan even stranger though :/
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With Masch likely to stay and Lucas also being better than Poulsen in the DM role, how does it make sense to pay £4.5m and end up with a 3rd choice DM and only 1 attack minded CM?
A quartet of Gerrard, Aquilani, Lucas and Masch is better and more balanced than Gerrard, Lucas, Masch and Poulsen. And it's cost us money too!
I have no issue with having 4 cm's or even him wanting to replace Aquilani, what I can't understand is why Poulsen is the man replacing him.
We don't need a 3rd player that can play the DM role, especially if he's not an improvement on the 2 we've already got. An injury to Gerrard and Lucas becomes the main creative/attacking force from CM for us.
If you're set on loaning out (or selling) Aquilani then there's a greater need to bring in an attack minded midfielder than a defensive 1.
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I've not said I agree with him playing CM, I've just said he will be playing there
And again, I have no issue with signing a 4th CM. Poulsen may not be a bad player (he's not that good either) but there's a far greater need to replace Aquilani with another attack minded midfield player than a 3rd DM.
And again, I have no issue with signing a 4th CM. Poulsen may not be a bad player (he's not that good either) but there's a far greater need to replace Aquilani with another attack minded midfield player than a 3rd DM.
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Stekelenburg would be a decent buy for Arsenal. Experienced at international and club level.
Stekelenburg would be a decent buy for Arsenal. Experienced at international and club level.
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