** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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I am sure I have the backing of most football fans(non UTD ones anyway) when I say that we would all love to see you between the sticks next season!

I'm more of a cross between, Baresi/Van Basten/Cruyff and Best to be honest but I can put quite a shift in between the sticks if needed.
 
[ASSE]Hinchy;16444410 said:
Pires not to the standard of Evra and Cantona!? Average!?

That is outrageous. Pires was a fantastic player for Arsenal. Indeed Wenger referred to him as 'the oil in Arsenal's engine' whilst he was there. You could see in his style of player what an influence he had on games.

Obvioulsy doesnt know what he is talking about. Pires was immense for Arsenal in his time here. I guess the rest of the INVINCIBLES carried him throughout his time there :rolleyes:

I guess he will be saying Petit(WORLD CUP WINNER) was average too next. Him and Veira were an unstopable pair in the centre.

So we had Pires, Henry, Veira, Petit...not too shabby in my eyes. :p
 
The idea of buying Chamakh, when we play a 4-5-1, and have 5 strikers(RVP, Bendter, Theo, Eduardo, Vela) and Nasri, Arshavin, Rosicky, Ramsey, Wilshire who all prefer to play as advanced central players, buying another striker is a joke.

I think the Chamakh deal is already done...he's a free agent this summer which means clubs can approach him 6 months before the expiry of his current contract; I think we tied him up on a pre-contract a while back now. I'll be amazed if he doesn't sign for us. Good news is we will have only paid a small transfer fee for him, which would go to him in the form of a signing on fee, somewhere in the region of £3-4 mil I imagine, so wages apart it's not too big a gamble.

As for the current 5 that we have... Wenger's lack of faith in Vela is evident as we started all those games with Arshavin up front when Vela was available. RVP has never had a season free from injury, he invariably seems to miss half the games, and thus cannot be depended upon, even if he is pure class. Walcott, well Wenger seldom plays him through the middle, and his finishing/physical strength are such that I hope he never does! Eduardo has been linked with a move away from us, he doesn't seem to have the sharpness in front of goal that he used to have prior to his horrific injury, and generally the PL seems too physical for him. That leaves Bendtner, and me reaching for a bottle of anti-depressants!

You say we need some real wingers, but I don't know if that's the problem, I like our system with the narrow attacking wide men (Arshavin/Nasri whoever) with the full-backs bombing on hugging the touchline. This season we have got so many great balls into the box, it just seems like there's rarely anyone there on the end of it... Adebayor turncoat ******* that he is, did do well for us there.


You're right though, money needs to go on defence, big time. Keeper, CB and a disciplined DM (Song does love a good roam unfortunately)
 
I would also like to put it on record that I too would welcome being at United next season.


Exactly, every time someone says something even remotely vague like "I once saw a Manchester United beach towel". we are going to get these articles.

I want serious links! why bother with flim flam!
 
United in 2009/10

With Nani (32 games)

Won: 25 (78%)
Drawn: 4 (12.5%)
Lost: 3 (9.5%)
Goals for: 71 (2.21 per game)

Without Nani (22 games)

Won: 13 (59%)
Drawn: 1 (4.5%)
Lost: 8 (36.5%)
Goals for: 43 (1.95 per game)


United fans still want to get rid of him?
 
I think Nani is a very decent player, I have never said otherwise.

If he can just sort out his consistency, be a bit more like Valencia in that respect, he would be up there with all the world class wingers.
 
United in 2009/10

With Nani (32 games)

Won: 25 (78%)
Drawn: 4 (12.5%)
Lost: 3 (9.5%)
Goals for: 71 (2.21 per game)

Without Nani (22 games)

Won: 13 (59%)
Drawn: 1 (4.5%)
Lost: 8 (36.5%)
Goals for: 43 (1.95 per game)


United fans still want to get rid of him?

hmmm - you realise that the stats that include him playing also include the likes of the AC game away where we only started scoring AFTER he was subbed off!!

Just because he is on the pitch - has no direct involvement in any of those stats (especially being a wide man)

He has had some very good individual games - but has he ever put a good run of games where he has consistantly played well?


Please can all you who want to take the **** out of what I wrote about Pires actually LOOK at what I wrote. He had three decent seasons at Arsenal out of 6, two others where injury ridden (according to wiki) and the last one he ran his contract down to leave on a free because he wasnt getting enough games (which surely implies he wasnt playing that well either). Yes he had three very good seasons which is what I wrote first time around - but I cant see whats wrong with stating that three years of real top quality performances isnt that long compared to Henry or Viera !
 
Nani also has 10 assists (and that doesn't include the 2 own goals that were pretty much all him) putting him third in the league assists table according to the United website.
 
Nani also has 10 assists (and that doesn't include the 2 own goals that were pretty much all him) putting him third in the league assists table according to the United website.

Even if you did include those two own goals (I wouldn't), he is joint 4th with milner for assists, not 3rd. Fabregas, Lampard, and Drogba are all ahead of him.

/pedant :)
 
Well I'm going by the United website so blame them not me :p

Even then he's had considerably less football than those four...and isn't even being played in his strongest position.
 
Please can all you who want to take the **** out of what I wrote about Pires actually LOOK at what I wrote.

This is what the **** you wrote

edit 2 - maybe loved by Arsenal fans which is fair enough really - but seemingly an pretty average player (could have been a lot better without a few serious injuries), not to the standards of Henry, Evra or Cantona

You called him an average player :rolleyes:

Maybe you should re-read what the **** you wrote ;)

And if Pires is average im not sure what Nani is...
 
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I sense a tinge of deja-vu when I say this as I said the same thing last summer but next season is going to be massive in Nani's United career...

I guess in retrospect we were all expecting him to come into the team straight away and replace Ronaldo, whereas in reality after a shocking first couple of months of the season it tool another couple of months of not even being named on the bench for him to really take probably his last opportunity to make it at United for him to even warrant getting regular starts, yes he's still frustrating as hell but he's made the first step by actually demanding a first team place due to what he showed against Arsenal, Bayern and the goal against Spurs, what he needs to do now he's got the place in the team is make those kinds of games a more regular occurrence and if he adds constancy to his game then to be perfectly honest we'll have one of the best wingers in the world playing for us because if he's brings consistency then the goals and assists will continue to come and lets face it that's what you require your wingers to do.

Obviously it's still a big if as to whether he'll be able to add that consistency or not but I'll remain optimistic....
 
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