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robj20 said:
Through what wall, if the doorbell is in the frame there is no option to go through the wall.
If I mounted the doorbell on the wall you wouldn't see my door and the bell would be awkward to reach.

I'm not sure what would look naff, you wouldn't see any cable at all.
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Sorry, all we had to go on is a somewhat vague description of what you are trying to do. A picture paints 1000 words and all that.

I get you might not see You might not see the cable but you'd see the additional trim/trunking that otherwise wouldn't be there.

How are you dealing with it on the outside, e.g. how are you getting the able into the camera from between the frame and the rear entry of the camera which is in the middle of it?

alex24 said:
Is running a network cable outside your house in a fairly accessible location possibly a security risk? I mean, they would have to be determined and clued up, but I’m sort of unclear why a wired Ethernet doorbell was thought of as a great idea from a company who does security solutions. Cameras are similar but I guess usually out of reach.
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Technically yes, realistically no. Do you honestly think someone is going to come and cut the cable, put an RJ45 on the end of it and tap into your local network?

They also wouldn't expect you to run the cable for the doorbell externally, its rear entry only so you need to make a hole in whatever you attaching it to.
 
alex24 said:
Is running a network cable outside your house in a fairly accessible location possibly a security risk? I mean, they would have to be determined and clued up, but I’m sort of unclear why a wired Ethernet doorbell was thought of as a great idea from a company who does security solutions. Cameras are similar but I guess usually out of reach.
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This is exactly why my cameras are on their own VLAN which has no access to my 'main' network. If I ever deployed a doorbell, it'd be on the same VLAN.
 
Unless you're being targeted for espionage by someone with a lot of money, nobody is going to be lifting your doorbell off to use the network port behind it. Anyone breaking in will smash it off the wall with a hammer if they notice it, and they probably won't know what the cable behind it even is.

Stick it on its own VLAN if you want but don't overthink it.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Sorry, all we had to go on is a somewhat vague description of what you are trying to do. A picture paints 1000 words and all that.

I get you might not see You might not see the cable but you'd see the additional trim/trunking that otherwise wouldn't be there.

How are you dealing with it on the outside, e.g. how are you getting the able into the camera from between the frame and the rear entry of the camera which is in the middle of it?


Technically yes, realistically no. Do you honestly think someone is going to come and cut the cable, put an RJ45 on the end of it and tap into your local network?

They also wouldn't expect you to run the cable for the doorbell externally, its rear entry only so you need to make a hole in whatever you attaching it to.
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Yes it's hard to put across in words.
There would be no extra trim either, I'd have to remove trim to install then put the very same trim back. Literally all good see different from now is the camera I just wonder if the actual camera position is good enough, if the lens angle is wide enough I guess it would be fine.
 
My current router is a TP-Link AX1800/AX20 and I use the onboard Wifi. I'd like to have better Wifi upstairs so I was thinking about getting 2 x U6 Pro's, or more likely, 2 x U6 Plus'. I'd obviously then turn the router Wifi off. I know I can run the Ubiquiti Network Server on a computer but I think I'll be worried about wiping the hard drive and forgetting to backup/migrate the Ubiquiti stuff so I was thinking about geting a CloudKey+ but then I thought I'd still be using the AX1800 router and since I use Pi-Hole I don't really make much regular day-to-day use of the router so I thought why not get a Cloud Gateway Ultra and use that to a) be my router and b) manage my Ubiquiti APs.

So would a Cloud Gateway Ultra and 2 U6 Plus work as a system to fully replace my AX1800? Could I still use my Pi-Hole for the DHCP and tell the CGU to not do that? Forgot to mention that I'm on Aquiss' 550MB FTTP fibre at the moment but I might be moving to a house where I am either going to have to use Virgin Media or stay with 70MB fibre until that area of town gets 500Mb+ broadband so the router would need to support this.
 
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MarcLister said:
My current router is a TP-Link AX1800/AX20 and I use the onboard Wifi. I'd like to have better Wifi upstairs so I was thinking about getting 2 x U6 Pro's, or more likely, 2 x U6 Plus'. I'd obviously then turn the router Wifi off. I know I can run the Ubiquiti Network Server on a computer but I think I'll be worried about wiping the hard drive and forgetting to backup/migrate the Ubiquiti stuff so I was thinking about geting a CloudKey+ but then I thought I'd still be using the AX1800 router and since I use Pi-Hole I don't really make much regular day-to-day use of the router so I thought why not get a Cloud Gateway Ultra and use that to a) be my router and b) manage my Ubiquiti APs.

So would a Cloud Gateway Ultra and 2 U6 Plus work as a system to fully replace my AX1800? Could I still use my Pi-Hole for the DHCP and tell the CGU to not do that? Forgot to mention that I'm on Aquiss' 550MB FTTP fibre at the moment but I might be moving to a house where I am either going to have to use Virgin Media or stay with 70MB fibre until that area of town gets 500Mb+ broadband so the router would need to support this.
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Yes that setup would work a treat, though you may get away with one AP if it’s placed more central in your house. I’ve seen people recommend the Plus for home use on here. Yes you can turn off DHCP in the controller software.

You will run into an issue if you are forced to use Virgin FTTP as their ONT is built into their all in one box, and still does not support modem mode.
 
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DIABLO said:
Yes that setup would work a treat, though you may get away with one AP if it’s placed more central in your house. I’ve seen people recommend the Plus for home use on here. Yes you can turn off DHCP in the controller software.

You will run into an issue if you are forced to use Virgin FTTP as their ONT is built into their all in one box, and still does not support modem mode.
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Nice one, thanks for the quick reply. I was looking at the U6 Pro but I don't think the extra £54 per U6 Pro is really worth it. I don't really have the ability to place an AP 'centrally' in my house. One would go in the living room, near the current router and the other in my loft where I have my computer located. That collection would cost me £270 + £10 for delivery from the Ubiquiti store so that's quite a good price for a better Wifi system with two APs where I need them.
 
MarcLister said:
Nice one, thanks for the quick reply. I was looking at the U6 Pro but I don't think the extra £54 per U6 Pro is really worth it. I don't really have the ability to place an AP 'centrally' in my house. One would go in the living room, near the current router and the other in my loft where I have my computer located. That collection would cost me £270 + £10 for delivery from the Ubiquiti store so that's quite a good price for a better Wifi system with two APs where I need them.
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I have the Ultra myself. It’s a very capable little device, you should be happy with it.
 
Buy the U6+ or the U7 Pro, there's no point buying the U6 Pro when it's only £18 cheaper than the 7 Pro.

The U6+ is still a very capable AP so if there are budget concerns bearing in mind the U7 Pro is 80% more than the U6+ then don't bother with Wi-Fi 7 and maybe upgrade in a couple of years when there's a U7+ out.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Personally I would buy U7 access points at this point. WiFi 7 is the next gen and has a lot nice upgrades over 6.
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I didn't think the WiFi 7 standard was set in stone? I was initially thinking about the U7 Pro instead of the U6 Pro however as its just a few quid more. I couldn't see the point in a U6 Pro when £18 more gets me the U7 Pro.
Caged said:
Buy the U6+ or the U7 Pro, there's no point buying the U6 Pro when it's only £18 cheaper than the 7 Pro.

The U6+ is still a very capable AP so if there are budget concerns bearing in mind the U7 Pro is 80% more than the U6+ then don't bother with Wi-Fi 7 and maybe upgrade in a couple of years when there's a U7+ out.
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Is the U7 Pro worth it over the U6 Plus/Pro in terms of features? I thought I could get the U6 Plus now then upgrade to U7 Pro later when the technology matures and the prices come down a bit? There's no budget concerns about getting the U7 Pro now. At the moment its just my Google Pixel 8 Pro that I have that is WiFi 7. Would the WiFi network be improved/faster if I went WiFi 7 now over WiFi 6?

My first thought was to just get 2 Ubiquiti APs but then I realised I'd have to turn my router's WiFi off and that made me think I might as well get a new router, especially as I use Pi-Hole for DHCP so my current TP-Link router isn't used for much. That's when I started thinking about a Ubiquiti router to replace the TP-Link.
 
MarcLister said:
I didn't think the WiFi 7 standard was set in stone? I was initially thinking about the U7 Pro instead of the U6 Pro however as its just a few quid more. I couldn't see the point in a U6 Pro when £18 more gets me the U7 Pro.
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The technical requirements are locked down, it’s just not got the final ratification which will happen at the end of the year.

MarcLister said:
Is the U7 Pro worth it over the U6 Plus/Pro in terms of features? I thought I could get the U6 Plus now then upgrade to U7 Pro later when the technology matures and the prices come down a bit? There's no budget concerns about getting the U7 Pro now. At the moment its just my Google Pixel 8 Pro that I have that is WiFi 7. Would the WiFi network be improved/faster if I went WiFi 7 now over WiFi 6?

My first thought was to just get 2 Ubiquiti APs but then I realised I'd have to turn my router's WiFi off and that made me think I might as well get a new router, especially as I use Pi-Hole for DHCP so my current TP-Link router isn't used for much. That's when I started thinking about a Ubiquiti router to replace the TP-Link.
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History suggests prices are not coming down on Ubiquiti kit, they effectively use the Apple pricing model. The equivalent APs have been launched at basically the same price points as the U6 range.

The U7 AP range will get fleshed out more per the U6 line so there will be cheaper APs available but they will have less features.

While Ubiquiti kit holds its value, I’m not sure it makes any sense to buy U6+ and then buy U7 pro later given the prices are unlikely to change. You may be going to be buying tower down the range later but the longer you leave it, the less the U6 kit will be worth.

Wifi 6 wasn’t a huge upgrade over WiFi 5 but WiFi 7 is genuinely a huge upgrade over WiFi 6. While we may not get all the speed of WiFi7 here due to some of the highest bands being potentially reserved for 5G, WiFi 7 has MLO where your devices can use the 2.4gjz, 5ghz and 6ghz bands simultaneously which isn’t possible on 6. This is massive when it comes to speed.
 
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I'm planning to migrate my current four camera Frigate based set up to a Unifi based one. My setup is based around a UDM coupled to an 8 port switch so rather than go for a vastly overpowered NVR system, I've been looking at a (still vastly overpowered) Dream Machine Pro Max. Initially I thought a Dream Machine SE would be ideal but that's been supplanted now if I remember correctly. At the other end of the scale, the Cloud Gateway Max can also run Protect but I'm not sure it's future proof enough given the cost. Man maths says the DM Pro Max will be more useful for longer though I note it has only GbE ports rather than 2.5GbE. As you can probably tell, I'm flailing about here and at this moment I don't think there's the perfect all in one Unifi solution for what I want - am I wrong?
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
The technical requirements are locked down, it’s just not got the final ratification which will happen at the end of the year.


History suggests prices are not coming down on Ubiquiti kit, they effectively use the Apple pricing model. The equivalent APs have been launched at basically the same price points as the U6 range.

The U7 AP range will get fleshed out more per the U6 line so there will be cheaper APs available but they will have less features.

While Ubiquiti kit holds its value, I’m not sure it makes any sense to buy U6+ and then buy U7 pro later given the prices are unlikely to change. You may be going to be buying tower down the range later but the longer you leave it, the less the U6 kit will be worth.

Wifi 6 wasn’t a huge upgrade over WiFi 5 but WiFi 7 is genuinely a huge upgrade over WiFi 6. While we may not get all the speed of WiFi7 here due to some of the highest bands being potentially reserved for 5G, WiFi 7 has MLO where your devices can use the 2.4gjz, 5ghz and 6ghz bands simultaneously which isn’t possible on 6. This is massive when it comes to speed.
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Lovely explanation. Thanks. I've just ordered the Cloud Gateway Ultra and 2 U7 Pro's.
 
I have a single Unifi gateway at the moment so I can't lab this out, but can I connect two gateways together using site magic / another VPN and then route internet-bound traffic across the tunnel from a specific VLAN, and have it NAT out the other end? The use case is a family split across two countries, I want to make an SSID at each location that pops the internet traffic out in the other country.

I'm aware the VPN stuff is part of the product, and the documentation about policy routing talks about routing over a VPN client, but not explicitly about routing via a tunnel. I'm probably going to test something with an IPsec tunnel and see what happens but if someone is using the Unifi stuff in this way and it works then having that confirmed would save me a lot of time.
 
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