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arknor said:
the medal must have doubled your exp :)
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The more of the enemy team that dies, the more XP you will get regardless of what you do. Its like a 'team bonus' type thing. If you have ever been in a game were you won by capping but a lot of their team was still alive, you would have likely gotten quite poor XP.

I believe that you can influence games. It will always depend on what tanks you are in, the map and how special your team are. There have been plenty of times even when playing solo, where I have come top of the team in XP and damage in a tank 1 or 2 tiers lower than the top. If I'm doing more damage in a tier 6 tank vs a tier 8 tank, chances are I am influencing the game a significant amount.

If the game really was random and skill didn't make a difference, you would see much similar stats across all the players.
 
I never said skill didn't make a difference but the majority of the time you can't make enough of a difference unless you get one of those games where you get 6+ kills which has only ever happened to me about 5 times in 3k+ games.
 
I'm still a bit of a noob so not sure if I can help :p when I started I read a bunch of guides and watched a bunch of youtube vids on the games that explain all the mechanics of the game, then moved on to trying to understand how games progressed.

I really like this guys vids, he has tips and game streams
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRiisingSun

then there's a bunch of tank specific guides like this one on the chinese light tanks
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index...ome-in-the-type-62-wz-131-and-wz-132-wip/#top

and some that try and explain how games progress
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/216054-what-i-feel-is-a-complete-84-mod-pak/#top

and you can find your stats online so you can work out what type of tanks you do well in and what you don't do well in. (I suck at arties and TD's but do ok at the rest).
http://www.noobmeter.com/player/eu/

Recently I've been staying in games after I've died and watching what others do, if they are good you can pick up some good tips and also you can see why the bad players get killed so easily.
 
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arknor said:
win % don't mean ****
You can't change the outcome of a game solo 90% of the time and your left relying on your team to pull their own weight.
Some people are also grinding different tanks all the time which often stick you in something really crap like the b1 or amx40 where your just dead weight to your team even if your the best player in the world.

I guessd the people around 59% in the ocuk clan are the ones who are nearly always platooned with someone, try playing solo and see how hard it is to make a difference.
My win ratio would be much higher if I stuck to specific tanks

I'm often in tanks without 100% crew , without perks and without mounted equipment
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You aren't going to like this, but I often watch people play after I die, and those with a sub-50% winrate often deserve it. If you always go to the wrong place for your tanks strengths (ie going up steep hill with a Maus or high tier heavy instead of helping in town) and those with a 52% winrate don't often make the same mistake.

I agree those with an epic winrate probably often platoon, but to say winrate means **** just proves ignorance. 45% winrate means you overall have a negative impact on your team, 49 still means you are maybe not helping to swing any matches, but is not necessarily negative.
 
arknor said:
I never said skill didn't make a difference but the majority of the time you can't make enough of a difference unless you get one of those games where you get 6+ kills which has only ever happened to me about 5 times in 3k+ games.
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You're right to an extent, there can be numerous games where nothing you do will win the game for your team, however, if you consistantly perform at a high level, you will influence the games - it may only be 2 out of 10 games, but that should be enough to make an impression on your win rate.

Of course, winrate is not the be all and end all of a good player. A better indicator is average damage - that being said, generally, one will come with the other.

I platoon a lot nowadays, strangely enough, I find that my monster games are when I'm playing by myself. When platooning, there are other decent (in some cases! ;) ) players who will steal my thunder. In essence, platooning does help your win rate but probably has a negative effect on your average damage.

Oh, and you're welcome to platoon and play in company battles if you want. Most of us are noobs who don't have a clue, but you might learn some things here and there :).
 
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Just to prove a point, here's me in action in my T28. 9 Kills - thats nearly two thirds of the enemy team dead by my hands (or gun!)l and yet I still did not come away with a win. As a result my win rate goes down and my efficiency goes up (because I did more damage)


Win rate has to be taken with a pinch of salt as it is very reliant on the types of game you play. I guess it's possible for a player to have a high efficiency and low win rate simply because they play solo a lot (like me!) and end up on teams full of idiots all the time.

I agree with Link in that win rate can be used as an indication to see how they perform but I think personally its not the only indicator of a players ability. It's true, after I die I often switch to other players and just facepalm some of the things I see them do - it's outright crazy play - maybe they just don't care, maybe they are just playing for "fun" or simply they do not understand the basics of how to play well. Whatever the reason, you can spot a low w/r low eff player a mile off without even having looked at XVM. Fact.

The problem is that these players have not learnt anything from playing the lower tiers either because they are too thick headed to learn or just absolute tards, period. The other problem is these players are now reaching the dizzy heights of tiers ix and x and at that level they make a big difference if you've got 3 spanners with win rates of <50% and efficiency rating of <1000 occupying the top 3 tanks on your team and the other teams top tanks are all above 50% and 1200 efficiency. They know what they are doing and my team don't - it's that simple. Result - we lose.
 
arknor said:
win % don't mean ****
You can't change the outcome of a game solo 90% of the time and your left relying on your team to pull their own weight.
Some people are also grinding different tanks all the time which often stick you in something really crap like the b1 or amx40 where your just dead weight to your team even if your the best player in the world.

I guessd the people around 59% in the ocuk clan are the ones who are nearly always platooned with someone, try playing solo and see how hard it is to make a difference.
My win ratio would be much higher if I stuck to specific tanks

I'm often in tanks without 100% crew , without perks and without mounted equipment
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Of course I don't mean winrate is the only measure, but it is often a good indicator. You rarely get a player with 1200 efficiency and less than 50% winrate.

Players win higher efficiency and a low winrate tend to be the ones who refuse to take a shot for a badly damaged team mate, which would keep them alive and keep their gun in the game. They also generally don't cover flanks so that players pushing the right side and middle don't get **** from the left, they stay right back behind their rock...

And to be honest Defrag, 55% winrate on your part isn't bad is it? :p
 
Managed to run into one of you guys in your ISU-152 the other day ;)

Regarding the VOIP Situation, the Reddit teamspeak is open to anyone who wants to play, just login to it, poke an officer and they'll set you some perms.
 
Delboy said:
Just to prove a point, here's me in action in my T28. 9 Kills - thats nearly two thirds of the enemy team dead by my hands (or gun!)l and yet I still did not come away with a win. As a result my win rate goes down and my efficiency goes up (because I did more damage)
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But on their team the 2 left have 10 kills between them, one with 8 kills in the end. So basically the good players on each team eliminated the bad players on the other team which left you near the end with 2v1, 2 good players using cover and flanking against 1 good player, well they should always win.

But it works both ways. So if you join a game, due to RNG there's something like 40% of games you will always loose and 40% of games you will always win leaving about 20% where you can have some form of effect, that's about it really. Platooning increases this number a bit due to your platoon having an advantage in the skirmishes they encounter and then being able to go on to help in other skirmishes.
 
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On the subject of in-game chat. We do have a Teamspeak server which is kindly currently funded by dogger....Ask on the in-game chat and details can be provided, I'm not sure what they are off the top of my head.
 
I found out why the mic on my headphones intermittently works. Didnt realise right next to the volume on the headset is a mic on/off button. Gaahhhhh!!!

Its really close so when I've been in a game and wanted to alter the volume I've caught the mic button too.

I tried Steam Chat last night and it worked fine. My brother doesnt use a headset just a desk mic and his surround speakers. So whilst I was chatting to him he was in game playing Left for Dead 2 so I could hear him, the game and his mates fighting off zombies!
 
DanF said:
then there's a bunch of tank specific guides like this one on the chinese light tanks
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index...ome-in-the-type-62-wz-131-and-wz-132-wip/#top[/url]

Recently I've been staying in games after I've died and watching what others do, if they are good you can pick up some good tips and also you can see why the bad players get killed so easily.
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Yea that guides good made me want to rebuy the wz-131 after reading it :D

First go at hardcore passive scout sniping
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Not bad dmg from a tank with only 880 hp :) get the annoying people telling me to go scout though :S guess they don't understand the tank doesn't really fill a proper active scout role.

need to get camo perks on my crew fast though
 
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Map rotation is starting to bug me with this game. It gets annoying having to choose a tank to fit the 4 maps currently in rotation rather than just playing what i'm in the mood for.
 
arknor said:
I never said skill didn't make a difference but the majority of the time you can't make enough of a difference unless you get one of those games where you get 6+ kills which has only ever happened to me about 5 times in 3k+ games.
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okay scrap that.
bush spotting in the wz-131 whilst sniping people who can't see you even from fairly close range thanks to the tanks camo value makes a really big difference and stops people running around like headless chickens bumping into enemy tanks and dieing in the first few minutes

I've also noticed any other light tanks on my team whilst I'm in the WZ-131 are a lot less prone to dive bombing towards the enemy arty as soon as the round starts and dieing after 20seconds
 
Hyburnate said:
You guys ever do TC's?
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I'm not in the OcUK clan but the one I'm are very active with TC's. TC's are probably my favourite part of the game, some good laughs during them. It's nice when everyone is on the same page as opposed to the carry on that takes place in Randoms some times.
 
Hmmm, the clan I'm in at the moment doesn't do them and I'm pretty shy so I wouldn't join them anyway, so I thought I'd perhaps join you guys even if you don't do tcs.
 
We do TCs pretty regularly - usually on a fri/sat night mostly t6/8s. We used to do them more regularly but a few of regulars have stopped playing so we are sometimes a bit short of numbers or have to let noobs like Danuttah play with us
 
I'll try to get a few games in tonight, it won't be until after 10pm though. Hopefully I'll last longer than the single match that I played last week, that was so bad I rage quit!
 
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