On The Wagon... then in 'ere!

Taste- Is an excuse, Carr does a whole chapter on it.
Getting drunk- Means you have no control.
Fun, Really?

OK

I'm perfectly qualified to decide what I enjoy thanks. And so what if getting drunk means you're out of control slightly? Ever enjoyed a ride at the fair or a theme park? You have no control then and lots of people enjoy them. If you're an alcoholic and this book has helped you then good for you, but don't then start telling people without a problem what they should be doing. That's called being a tool.
 
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don't then start telling people without a problem what they should be doing.

I quite agree with you there.

I've stopped drinking for my own personal reasons, never had any issue with drinking in the past and will be drinking again in the future. I would classify myself as a moderate drinker.

Like most things in live, if it's in moderation what's the problem? It would be such a boring way to live if you stopped doing all the things we are told we shouldn't be drinking & eating.
 
Taste- Is an excuse, Carr does a whole chapter on it.
Getting drunk- Means you have no control.
Fun, Really?

OK

What I find and scary us how you've completely bought into what Carr's point of view on the subject is. If that helps you out of a hole that you're in that's great, but don't think that it applies to people who don't have an issue with their drinking.

I know its bad and I drank a fair amount when I was younger knowing that (back when you're young and don't think life is worth living past 50 anyway :D). I've never had a drinking problem per se, I was probably on around 200+ units a week before I settled. So a fair bit but nowhere near alcoholism amount, I had friends who'd drink double what I did back then, along with other substances :(
 
I'm perfectly qualified to decide what I enjoy thanks. And so what if getting drunk means you're out of control slightly? Ever enjoyed a ride at the fair or a theme park? You have no control then and lots of people enjoy them. If you're an alcoholic and this book has helped you then good for you, but don't then start telling people without a problem what they should be doing. That's called being a tool.

I was just asking. In an "on the wagon " thread. I'm not telling people in this thread what they should be doing. I was asking.

You can word stuff how you like. You're justification and defence of your actions are typical behaviour of the drunk :p

But I'm not saying your are one. :p
 
What I find and scary us how you've completely bought into what Carr's point of view on the subject is. If that helps you out of a hole that you're in that's great, but don't think that it applies to people who don't have an issue with their drinking.

I know its bad and I drank a fair amount when I was younger knowing that (back when you're young and don't think life is worth living past 50 anyway :D). I've never had a drinking problem per se, I was probably on around 200+ units a week before I settled. So a fair bit but nowhere near alcoholism amount, I had friends who'd drink double what I did back then, along with other substances :(

That's the whole point. Out of interest why are you posting in a thread about Abstention?
 
That's the whole point. Out of interest why are you posting in a thread about Abstention?

I'm not currently drinking...

Edit: I thought of another reason I drank what I did when I was younger, kudos. I would drink during the day with one bunch of mates (11am-8pm), then start drinking with another group of mates when they came out (8pm-2am) and I would still be the soberest in the taxi rank. People didn't like getting into a round with me as it would spell their doom. Daft really when I look back on it , but I guess I just had a high tolerance. Now I'm in my 40's I couldn't drink like I did back then, the odd weekend but not every night. I shudder to think how much I drank from 16 to 34 which is when I started to settle down. Apart from rent and food (and the odd gaming related splurge) all my free cash went on socialising and I wasn't on a bad wage.
 
Tomorrow will be two weeks sober for me, thanks to the amazing easy way! Two weeks of genuine joi de vivre, and none of the painful willpower battles that used to go on until I ran out of mental fortitude.

easyrider you remember what he says at the end? We shouldn't try to convince others about what we know unless they are receptive, we chose the red pill :cool::cool::cool:
 
Tomorrow will be two weeks sober for me, thanks to the amazing easy way! Two weeks of genuine joi de vivre, and none of the painful willpower battles that used to go on until I ran out of mental fortitude.

easyrider you remember what he says at the end? We shouldn't try to convince others about what we know unless they are receptive, we chose the red pill :cool::cool::cool:

:D
 
I have to admit, my drinking just spiralled out of control, I was drinking up to two bottles of wine a night for years.

The longest I went without alcohol during that period was four days, and it was hell.

Come the evening I would be craving a drink and in the end I would give up and go buy some wine.

I finished reading the Allen Carr book three days ago, and to my amazement I haven't had any cravings what so ever, I don't want or need a drink now that I realise what alcohol is, a poison.

Mr Allen Carr I salute you sir.
 

Repeat after me

All Hail Allen!
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I have to admit, my drinking just spiralled out of control, I was drinking up to two bottles of wine a night for years.

The longest I went without alcohol during that period was four days, and it was hell.

Come the evening I would be craving a drink and in the end I would give up and go buy some wine.

I finished reading the Allen Carr book three days ago, and to my amazement I haven't had any cravings what so ever, I don't want or need a drink now that I realise what alcohol is, a poison.

Mr Allen Carr I salute you sir.

You have climbed out of the picture plant. Congrats....lets face it...We have been medicated by the establishment for years.


You are now free :D
 
You have climbed out of the picture plant. Congrats....lets face it...We have been medicated by the establishment for years.


You are now free :D

its pitcher :)

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Repeat after me

All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
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All Hail Allen!All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
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All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!All Hail Allen!
All Hail Allen!

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But that's AHA. :p:D:o
 
Failed failed failed even after reading the book, I'm to thick to understand it maybe. Once a drunk always a drunk.

Read the book again when you're sober and try again. You've not failed, all you've done is do what hundreds of thousands of people do daily and because of the same compulsions. Re-read the book, make sure you've learnt and accepted the lessons and stop again.

You can do it
 
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