On The Wagon... then in 'ere!

Brenn47 · 11 Feb 2017 at 19:41

So I'd have to sit there and bare all including the hospital stays & days having a bender?

phonemonkey · 11 Feb 2017 at 19:46

Brenn47;30494583 said:
So I'd have to sit there and bare all including the hospital stays & days having a bender?

No, just sit there and listen. You're not required to speak, though you can if you want to.

robfosters · 11 Feb 2017 at 19:56

phonemonkey;30494608 said:
No, just sit there and listen. You're not required to speak, though you can if you want to.

I've never been to one, but I imagine once you hear everyone else opening up and admitting everything, that it becomes easier for you to, and a massive relief when it's all out.

Brenn47 · 11 Feb 2017 at 20:03

phonemonkey;30494608 said:
No, just sit there and listen. You're not required to speak, though you can if you want to.

I don't mind telling people about my stupidity, even if it's embarrassing to do so.

phonemonkey · 11 Feb 2017 at 20:15

robfosters;30494639 said:
I've never been to one, but I imagine once you hear everyone else opening up and admitting everything, that it becomes easier for you to, and a massive relief when it's all out.

Exactly. If you are an alcoholic it doesn't take long before you realise that there's probably not much you've done someone in the room hasn't also done.

phonemonkey · 11 Feb 2017 at 20:16

Brenn47;30494661 said:
I don't mind telling people about my stupidity, even if it's embarrassing to do so.

Then what do you have to lose? I bet if you look there will be a meeting local to you tomorrow. Call them and they'll arrange for someone to chum you along if it would help

Brenn47 · 11 Feb 2017 at 20:25

There's a Big Book meeting tomorrow in my local community hall, do they always call them Big Book meetings? I won't go till next week though as I'm still not feeling too great.

phonemonkey · 11 Feb 2017 at 20:28

Different meetings have slightly different formats though at no meeting should there be any pressure to do more than listen. I'd suggest going to a variety of meetings to get a feel for what works for you.

I understand you feel ropey, but if you can physically get there I'd go anyway. Waiting to feel better before you take steps to get better seems unlikely to work to me.

wiiija · 11 Feb 2017 at 20:33

I'm six months sober after almost killing myself with drink and drugs, I feel healthier but still crave a drink sometimes, does that ever pass?

phonemonkey · 11 Feb 2017 at 20:38

wiiija;30494747 said:
I'm six months sober after almost killing myself with drink and drugs, I feel healthier but still crave a drink sometimes, does that ever pass?

I'm my experience, mostly yes. Though I still do sometimes want a beer, it's far less frequent, usually less intense and I feel more confident in dealing with them. I'm a year and 4 months sober

Brenn47 · 11 Feb 2017 at 22:52

For a forum for supposedly clever computer nerds, there's a surprising amount of people who should know better struggling with addiction! :eek:

Kamerad · 12 Feb 2017 at 11:23

I don't have much to offer in the way of advice but I hope you can overcome this Brenn.

Jimbeam3678 · 12 Feb 2017 at 14:20

1 year and 3 months without alcohol here. Hand on heart I don't miss it on bit , it's all about your attitude towards mind altering drugs and lets be clear here it is a drug!

Brenn you never did come back and say if you read the book https://www.amazon.co.uk/Easy-Control-Alcohol-Allen-Carr/dp/1848374658

If you are serious and go into it with an open mind , then this book will help. Why not download it while you don't feel to good. What have you got to lose a fiver ? That's not even a bottle of wine

Jimbeam3678 · 12 Feb 2017 at 14:26

Brenn47;30495068 said:
For a forum for supposedly clever computer nerds, there's a surprising amount of people who should know better struggling with addiction!

In addition forget about other people in which you are trying to justify your drinking to yourself.

I truly believe in 15 - 20 years time drinking will be seen in the same way as smoking is now. People on the continent don't drink like us "manly" Brits do.

Give it up save a fortune , lose weight , feel better and most importantly you get to see this time next year as an added bonus!

As with most things if you really want it and are willing to put the hard miles in then anything is possible.

NOW CRACK ON!

Brenn47 · 12 Feb 2017 at 14:46

The blood in my pee has put the fear of god in me, really think I've cracked it this time!

Need to stop or I won't see next year.

strumpusplunket · 12 Feb 2017 at 20:49

You won't, mate! But... "fear of god", "think I've cracked it"... you've written these things before over and over (and over!). It's not "need to stop" anymore for you. It's: need help and support. That's nowt to be ashamed of, but it might just be what keeps you alive.

strumpusplunket · 12 Feb 2017 at 20:51

To be blunt: DON'T ******* DIE BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO STUBBORN TO SEEK HELP!

Weighing up those two options, it seems easy. You need to think about the fact that you're choosing death...

Brenn47 · 12 Feb 2017 at 21:14

I know, had a doctor in hospital earlier this year tell me I was lucky to be alive, few weeks later I'd forgotten how bad it was and ended up drinking again, then drinking the next day to get rid of the hangover /repeat. Utterly stupid thing to do. :rolleyes:

Lokai · 12 Feb 2017 at 22:09

Brenn47;30497242 said:
I know, had a doctor in hospital earlier this year tell me I was lucky to be alive, few weeks later I'd forgotten how bad it was and ended up drinking again, then drinking the next day to get rid of the hangover /repeat. Utterly stupid thing to do.

Do you want to stop drinking, forever?

Brenn47 · 12 Feb 2017 at 22:42

Yeah, it's not like the old days where I could drink as much as I like and wake up fresh as a daisy. Now it's either wake up feeling a bit rough, or wake up feeling like I'm on my death bed.

Before 2016 I didn't drink very much at all, just broke up with the girlfriend and all of a sudden I have nothing to do and a very low boredom threshold. Started drinking to fill the void and as the days went by I started drinking more and more until my drinking got to silly levels.

Up to 2016 I was cycling 30 miles a day.