**** Original Starcraft 2 Thread ****

Is this thread full of women.....? Way too much *****yness in here!

Lol says the funny guy who basically tried to throw fuel on the fire XD

Go over to tea liquid.net, it's about as bad as this over there. Everyone thinks their race is the hardest or that their race is balanced so you'll get pretty much this arguement everywhere.
 
Stephano has pushed back his studies another year. /cheer

I'm surprised he's decided that cos IMO he's not making the most of it as hes not going to the GSL and it baffles me.

I know he dominates the EU scene but not as much as the Koreans come further west. I think he'd make some decent money in the gsl.
 
Because the three races are equal, equally difficulty to learn, and equally balanced once you learn them all.

No they're not and it shows that you don't know any of the races to say that.

Protoss - army is pretty immobile as a deathball. It can be a problem to take expansions as they don't get to liftoff or be really mobile like zerg.

Terran - AOE raped. Keeps getting nerfed and requires a lot of micro.

Zerg - weak units. Needs to use guerilla tactics and they need to react well due to the droning mechanic.
 
Terran - AOE raped. Keeps getting nerfed and requires a lot of micro.

I don't totally agree with that. I will say that yes marines are easy picking with some good fungals or storms . On the other hand they are cheap and have great dps.

I think terran can need more multitasking with drops etc but these drops can be so decimating if done well that the terran need never engage in a big battle till he chooses.

Also MMMV which is what I normally come up against when playing terrans ( I am toss so that makes sense) is not that hard to micro on a basic level I would imagine. Chain the Vikings on colossus then you could A+move your MM then medivacs to follow them.

Yes I will agree that as you move up the stutter step and split micro is very demanding but no more so that heavy blink micro I think.
 
I don't totally agree with that. I will say that yes marines are easy picking with some good fungals or storms . On the other hand they are cheap and have great dps.

I think terran can need more multitasking with drops etc but these drops can be so decimating if done well that the terran need never engage in a big battle till he chooses.

Also MMMV which is what I normally come up against when playing terrans ( I am toss so that makes sense) is not that hard to micro on a basic level I would imagine. Chain the Vikings on colossus then you could A+move your MM then medivacs to follow them.

Yes I will agree that as you move up the stutter step and split micro is very demanding but no more so that heavy blink micro I think.

I don't think Blink micro is too hard and it's only really useful with a pure stalker composition.

It's true that marines are cheap compared to the cost of AOE units but they're still pretty OP. I'd love a change to storm cos I don't think it would make toss weaker at all.
 
Starting playing this online recently, playing as protoss.

Still got a LOT to learn, but enjoying it so far. Straight of the bat ranked in platinum in 4v4 (not getting carried either :) )
 
I don't think Blink micro is too hard and it's only really useful with a pure stalker composition.

It's true that marines are cheap compared to the cost of AOE units but they're still pretty OP. I'd love a change to storm cos I don't think it would make toss weaker at all.

Yeah blink micro is only really a big thing when like you say you go mass blink stalker, but what I always find is if I try do a timing attack when I just get blink that it takes all my concentration to micro them correctly , however I am still pretty bad at the game so that makes sense I suppose :L

I dont think a nerf to stroms would be a massive problem but I just wish bliz had kept their plans to give tos a AOE anti air. I mean fungal with infesters and thors so tos is kinda weak to some air play I feel
 
No they're not and it shows that you don't know any of the races to say that.

All you are doing here is showing your own bias, the bias WE ALL HAVE due to only really specialising in one race.

SC2 is not completely balanced, granted, however no one race is so imbalanced either way that it dominates or is dominated by the other races.

Every race has something they can do which screws over another race in certain circumstances, HT with Storm ruin a bio concentrated terrans day, a Terran 1-1-1 ruins a protoss' and good Muta harass from a zerg ruins EVERYONES day.

Seriously Kamwah you are coming off incredibly childish, if you want to whinge and moan about your favourite race then go to TL and do it.
 
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All you are doing here is showing your own bias, the bias WE ALL HAVE due to only really specialising in one race.

SC2 is not completely balanced, granted, however no one race is so imbalanced either way that it dominates or is dominated by the other races.

Every race has something they can do which screws over another race in certain circumstances, HT with Storm ruin a bio concentrated terrans day, a Terran 1-1-1 ruins a protoss' and good Muta harass from a zerg ruins EVERYONES day.

Seriously Kamwah you are coming off incredibly childish, if you want to whinge and moan about your favourite race then go to TL and do it.

I realise everyone has a bias and SC2 is probably unable to be properly balanced.

Btw you're very wrong, I have two EU accounts and 1 US. 1 for each race and i'm a Masters Toss/Terran and a Diamond Zerg. When I play the playhem daily which I do most days I roll Random.
My bias is not from just being raped repeatedly as Terran by Protoss AOE, it's what I know from playing both races and the huge problem in TvP is that past the 10minute mark the army composition for Terran has to be MMM(With G and/or V).

A 1/1/1 is simple to hold as Protoss because it's become so common, it's the 2rax situation currently happening. When something is trending it becomes easier to stop because more people do it and more ways to counter it or nullify it are being discussed or put into play.
Either way the 111 or any variation is shutdown by a robo which should be placed somewhere between your 1st and 4th gateway.

I laughed when you mentioned Muta Harass and not Infestors XD AOE Imba ;)
 
Dude seriously, give it a rest, no one cares.

This thread is to discuss the game, not for you to whinge yourself inside out about how a protoss player touched you in a bad place.
 
Dude seriously, give it a rest, no one cares.

This thread is to discuss the game, not for you to whinge yourself inside out about how a protoss player touched you in a bad place.

If you don't want to read it then don't. You unable to skip a post?

The funny thing is you're acting like I'm going on and just crying about toss toss toss but no-one here can actually reply back with an actual reply for a conversation. It's always just "QQ"


Yeah blink micro is only really a big thing when like you say you go mass blink stalker, but what I always find is if I try do a timing attack when I just get blink that it takes all my concentration to micro them correctly , however I am still pretty bad at the game so that makes sense I suppose :L

I dont think a nerf to stroms would be a massive problem but I just wish bliz had kept their plans to give tos a AOE anti air. I mean fungal with infesters and thors so tos is kinda weak to some air play I feel

Didn't see your reply XD

Yea Blink Micro can take a bit of practice but at least you know to do it unlike some people ;)
I agree kinda but Mass Mutas is the only viable air to go and I've seen that new Phoenix upgrade do wonders in pro games, doesn't seem like it's too micro intensive either. Banshees/Cattlebruisers are just a case of either obs/stalker/feedback and I haven't seen carrier battles in so long which makes me QQ cos Carriers are so boss.
 
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I have a question, I have been playing with a friend for a couple of months now and we both play terran, we know its not the most ideal combo but we like terran, anyway, my question is how can you beat double zerg as double terran, it seems unless there noobs we can't win, rushing doesn't work, teching doesn't work, we are now thinking far hellions with Mara rush and build bunkers outside there base might help.. Any advice?
 
I have a question, I have been playing with a friend for a couple of months now and we both play terran, we know its not the most ideal combo but we like terran, anyway, my question is how can you beat double zerg as double terran, it seems unless there noobs we can't win, rushing doesn't work, teching doesn't work, we are now thinking far hellions with Mara rush and build bunkers outside there base might help.. Any advice?

It can be hard to play team games properly because you have to be in sync with your partner quite well. I'd say reactor hellion opening then go into either mech or biomech.

Look up some 1v1 builds and try and tweak them for tea games by also building some counter units.
 
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