**** Original Starcraft 2 Thread ****

Kamwah said:
They better be taking it out to replace it. ATM Terrans have nothing useful.
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know you know how toss felt with the first beta build :L

I think that the warhound will be back with a big nerf as atm its too strong. From what I have seen from sasquatch's reddit posts and a few other places, the changes for protoss has been based on suggestions by the pros. I think the new oracle ability was grubbies idea.
Nice to see blizz listening to some feedback, hopefully things work out Ok with the new stuff and that carriers are used more as they are always such a fun unit to have
 
RiseAgainst said:
know you know how toss felt with the first beta build :L

I think that the warhound will be back with a big nerf as atm its too strong. From what I have seen from sasquatch's reddit posts and a few other places, the changes for protoss has been based on suggestions by the pros. I think the new oracle ability was grubbies idea.
Nice to see blizz listening to some feedback, hopefully things work out Ok with the new stuff and that carriers are used more as they are always such a fun unit to have
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I could've said the same thing to all the Toss QQ'ing about how good the Warhound was yet it received one minor nerf for not even a full week and then was removed.
The funny thing is it looks like the patch notes were making the Immortal stronger against the Warhound and then it disappears in the very same patch!
 
Think that note just makes it clear it'll be fixed if it makes a return. All games I've seen warhounds destroyed every protoss unit. And yeah Terran look like Protoss early build now. Tempest looks like absolute dog**** though, will be getting carriers out before them I think.
 
HankScorpio said:
Think that note just makes it clear it'll be fixed if it makes a return. All games I've seen warhounds destroyed every protoss unit. And yeah Terran look like Protoss early build now. Tempest looks like absolute dog**** though, will be getting carriers out before them I think.
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Tempest is a pointless unit. They should make Carriers into micro-able units like they were in BW.

Also would love to see the Collosus removed and the Carriers take it's place with a buff. Seeing as it's the same counter for both units and Carriers are much better.
 
If carriers needed a buff it would be the construction time and maybe lower the cost, esp in getting the FB which is expensive as well nerfing their hp could compensate for this. Make them the same as the colossus (construction +cost) and they'd be out every game. Otherwise you need x4 stargates and a decent defence while you mass em out. A few on their own don't cut the mustard as the interceptors can be quickly killed vs mass marine etc and then they're just sitting ducks. I don't like the idea of removing colossus though as they're pretty vital in dealing with upcoming mass hydras we'll all eventually be seeing and carriers won't be able to deal with that.
 
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HankScorpio said:
If carriers needed a buff it would be the construction time and maybe lower the cost, esp in getting the FB which is expensive as well nerfing their hp could compensate for this. Make them the same as the colossus (construction +cost) and they'd be out every game. Otherwise you need x4 stargates and a decent defence while you mass em out. A few on their own don't cut the mustard as the interceptors can be quickly killed vs mass marine etc and then they're just sitting ducks. I don't like the idea of removing colossus though as they're pretty vital in dealing with upcoming mass hydras we'll all eventually be seeing and carriers won't be able to deal with that.
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Collosi is the worst unit in the game IMO. There's so many problems it causes and so few reasons it's needed.

I still don't think we'll see mass hydra cos they're just too lowHP. They're like marines without medivacs, it won't work unless they're the supporting units.

Carriers definitely do need some kind of buff and if they did replace Collosi then it should be that they're as easy to get to.
 
HankScorpio said:
Clossus lololazors is the reason I got into Sc2 and played protoss. No way I'd be up for them removing it and would ragequit in protest yessiree.
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You'd be the only one then XD Every pro I've seen post about Protoss problems have stated most of them are caused by the colossus because it's mandatory in all matchups.
 

Interesting change by a pro gamer that the carrier could do with. Actually like the idea, but still think the carriers could do with additional buffs since they'd still never be out much in 1v1s even with this change.
 
Placed in gold again , not surprising as I haven't played much this season.
Ended up against a zerg. Moved out with fast blink ( not a proper build Just messing about tbh ) and killed his third lost a lot and ran away.
Took and third and got out some more tech and a mothership then took a forth as I moved out , he was only just taking a forth and was still on pure roach.
So yeah even though I kinda ... forgot colossus ...... was still rather easy.
 
This is my second season in gold. I was placed in silver at start of last then got bumped to gold after a few wins. Now just starting to ladder this new season I'm getting nothing lower than high plats and last night got a masters terran who did that annoying factory float thing over his army. Really annoying getting 20+ 'favoured' opponents in a row. and ofc I push on until I get a win and end up playing like a retard.
 
HankScorpio said:
This is my second season in gold. I was placed in silver at start of last then got bumped to gold after a few wins. Now just starting to ladder this new season I'm getting nothing lower than high plats and last night got a masters terran who did that annoying factory float thing over his army. Really annoying getting 20+ 'favoured' opponents in a row. and ofc I push on until I get a win and end up playing like a retard.
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When at the start of a season, you will get a tonne of favored opps but it doesn't generally mean anything. It's something to do with, your current MMR for this season isn't currently at the level of your global MMR. After some games it generally sorts itself out. Most of the time, the guy you are playing see's you as favored aswell as you seeing him as favored.
 
nex20 said:
When at the start of a season, you will get a tonne of favored opps but it doesn't generally mean anything. It's something to do with, your current MMR for this season isn't currently at the level of your global MMR. After some games it generally sorts itself out. Most of the time, the guy you are playing see's you as favored aswell as you seeing him as favored.
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aaaaaaaaand yep the ladder system is still stupid :p

damn i hope it becomes more sensible in hots..

You still playing mate? Not seen you on in ages :)
 
So much rage in this game.... It's nearly as bad as LoL
Just played a game against a zerg where he had over 400 mins before he even sent his drone to start his hatchery at his expo... By the time it got placed, he had over 700 mins. Anyway, by the time I attacked, my army had a lot of sentries with high energy, immortals, stalkers and a warp prism and was worth about 1 1/2 times as much as his... The he says "nice race"...... I don't think he meant it as a compliment.
 
Alex74 said:
aaaaaaaaand yep the ladder system is still stupid :p

damn i hope it becomes more sensible in hots..

You still playing mate? Not seen you on in ages :)
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Havn't played in the last 2 weeks, been in usa for work! But I have been about just been learning how to play T. So only been doing customs v my friend doing tvp's. Im on another account (hijacked a friends account). You still playing? We got to get some customs going like before where you can FF my ramp and i rage at you :D

You still tutoring?
 
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