Oscar Pistorius thread

AdladUK said:
Amazing I made a 1 letter spelling mistake.

Get lost.
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I'm at home. I can't get lost. Where are you?


What are you wearing?

Is it pink and frilly?

send me pics


I gather you're just trying to get some attention by trying to act all gruff man on an internet forum, so I'll let you have your moment.
 
AdladUK said:
For most people 100% of what they earn goes back into the system one way or another. Most people have to go into debt just to survive.

Virtually every country in the World has a form of police, fire and ambulance protection. Are you saying that the UK has the best? I don't think that's true at all. And in most cases police get there after the event and it seems they are more and more less likely to get convinctions that fit the crime.

As for snow ploughs... Well yeah... Have you ever actually been in a UK city or town when it snows? I guess not because you wouldn't be using that as a positive thing about how tax money is spent if so.
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1) Nobody has to go into debt to survive. If they want a better standard of living, maybe.

2) UK certainly has one of the best emergency services in the world, there are very very few places in the world where you'll have an ambulance within minutes of making an emergency call and won't be denied free healthcare, whatever the cause of the accident. Similar with the fire department. As for the police.... well, they're a lot better than many other countries.

3) Snow ploughs, they clear the most important roads and keep the vital lifelines of the UK running. Yes, mistakes have been made, but when nobody in the UK was prepared, you can hardly blame them. They do a damn good job.
 
http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackan...ius-violated-basic-firearms-rules-experts-say
Criminal law experts said that even if the prosecution fails to prove premeditated murder, firing several shots through a closed door could bring a conviction for the lesser but still serious charge of culpable homicide, a South African equivalent of manslaughter covering unintentional deaths through negligence.

Johannesburg attorney Martin Hood, who specializes in firearm law, said South African legislation allows gun owners to use lethal force only if they believe they are facing an immediate, serious and direct attack or threat of attack that could either be deadly or cause grievous injury.

According to Pistorius' own sworn statement read in court, he "did not meet those criteria," said Hood, who is also the spokesman for the South African Gun Owners' Association.

"If he fired through a closed door, there was no threat to him. It's as simple as that," he added. "He can't prove an attack on his life ... In my opinion, at the very least, he is guilty of culpable homicide."
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If his defence manages to successfully argue that he wasn't negligent in her death I'm not going to take law seriously anymore. :p
 
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mmj_uk said:
http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackan...ius-violated-basic-firearms-rules-experts-say

If his defence manages to successfully argue that he wasn't negligent in her death I'm not going to take law seriously anymore. :p
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At the very least he was negligent, I don't think there can be any question about that really. I don't even think it's reasonable to hear a noise in the bathroom and assume it's an intruder if you know that you don't live alone, the noise is always far, far more likely to be the person who you live with. To fire a gun at a closed door on the basis of a ridiculous assumption... Madness.
 
DampDog said:
To be honest I find your viewpoint a little odd. In one breath you have us living in a Police state, then go on about handouts to folk.

Generally speaking you can say what you want, when you want, about anyone or anything without fear of having a knock on the door from the Police or anyone else. That does have limits. If you threaten anyone or say things that simply are not true. Even if there is only a grain of truth in it, people will give you the benefit of the doubt.

That can't be said for some counties. It not unheard of to be threatened with death for calling a Teddy Bear, Mohammad. I think people around the world envy that more than handouts.

Plus all countries have deprived areas. Even now parts of the USA have people living in tents and cars, wile others live in mansions. The UK is no different, and better than most.
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You can't posts crude jokes on twitter / facebook in the UK and be 100% sure you're not going to be slapped by the law. Yeah I'd rather be living here than a load of other countries in the world but lets not pretend we're some bastion of freedom either.

Just because the entire world is crap doesn't mean what we have is good. Unfortunately much of our population support the nanny state so the rest of us just need to make lemons out of lemonade.
 
aln said:
Yeah I'd rather be living here than a load of other countries in the world but lets not pretend we're some bastion of freedom either.

Just because the entire world is crap doesn't mean what we have is good. Unfortunately much of our population support the nanny state so the rest of us just need to make lemons out of lemonade.
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I never said the UK, is some "bastion of freedom".. LOL :rolleyes:

I simply said it's not as bad as many parts of the world.

Plus if folk know the rules on Facebook, twitter, etc, say - "don't post anything crude or offencive," then do it anyway, they're pretty thick. So you could argue they deserve what they get. They are nothing to do with the nanny state, they are private companies, so they set the rules of membership. (probably with a good deal of input from their lawyers) But if you don't like the rules you don't join.

I'm off, lifes too short... Unsubscribed.

Anyway, I wonder how poor ole Oscar is doing?
 
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On the Last Leg with Adam Hills last night, him and Alex Brooker were discussing whether they would put on their prosthetic legs on first if they thought and intruder was in the house. Both said they definitely would.
 
estebanrey said:
On the Last Leg with Adam Hills last night, him and Alex Brooker were discussing whether they would put on their prosthetic legs on first if they thought and intruder was in the house. Both said they definitely would.
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There is actually a bit of a contradiction there though.

During their Paralympic show they were discussing what people with prosthetics did at night and Adam specifically said that he kept his leg on when sleeping.

So I found it odd that he didn't mention that, as he wouldnt need to put it on.
 
Nexus said:
There is actually a bit of a contradiction there though.

During their Paralympic show they were discussing what people with prosthetics did at night and Adam specifically said that he kept his leg on when sleeping.

So I found it odd that he didn't mention that, as he wouldnt need to put it on.
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They discussed whether they wore it in bed as well last night. Can't remember what Hills said but Brooker said he didn't unless he was really drunk. But trying to be picking about whether Hills would need to or not isn't really relevant, the point is that he wouldn't go around the house looking for a burglar without it on because he wants to look 'as tall and scary as possible' (to which Josh Widdicombe quipped "Surely you'd look more scary if you just held your leg in your hand")
 
I'm sure Oscar's earlier Tweet will be used against him:

Nothing like getting home to hear the washing machine on and thinking its an intruder to go into full combat recon mode into the pantry! waa
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Maybe he was just bragging but he doesn't sound like a guy who would be as terrified as he tried to make out in court, a little paranoid about intruders maybe.
 
Yes I realise that is what they said in last Fridays show.

However I just thought it was odd that given how much Adam went into how he keeps his leg on, it was strange not to have the sideline that he keeps it on. He could have of course said he wouldn't go looking without it on still. I remembered he said it in the original show, simply because it was something I'd never really thought of, so I'm sure many others remember too.
 
mmj_uk said:
I'm sure Oscar's earlier Tweet will be used against him:



Maybe he was just bragging but he doesn't sound like a guy who would be as terrified as he tried to make out in court, a little paranoid about intruders maybe.
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Could be argued back by his defence though of proof that it wasn't pre-mediated murder and further shows, like you say, that he is incredibly paranoid about getting robbed. It was also even publicised in a magazine how many weapon objects he keeps in his room.
 
So finally the trial begins.

I see he has pleaded not guilty, as expected.

However, i have not changed my mind that he is guilty of pre meditated murder.

unfortunately i also believe he will only be found guilty of man slaughter and receive a suspended sentence, maybe even house arrest.

but then i listen to mainstream media so what do i know?
 
With the right lawyers, good ivestigators and a lot of persoanl attacks on the witnesses, im sure he'll be able to create reasonable doubt. Money talks in legal systems.
 
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