Oscar Pistorius thread

estebanrey · 3 Mar 2014 at 14:22

nick.lidgett said:
I dont disagree at all, in fact by questioning my post you have only strengthened my argument that taking his legs would wrong

I was questioning the logic of the prison, not you.

mcast · 3 Mar 2014 at 14:47

if he's innocent I'll eat my legs

manic111 · 3 Mar 2014 at 14:51

IvanDobskey said:
You don't fire off four rounds through a door with someone on the other side and accidentally hit them though do you?

He intended to kill whoever was on the other side of the door. The only thing in question was whether he knew it was her or not.

But in South Africa it's not unlawful to kill an intruder.

rpg · 3 Mar 2014 at 14:54

manic111 said:
But in South Africa it's not unlawful to kill an intruder.

I was wondering about that. Does that mean that he could walk away despite killing someone (regardless of circumstances)?

Gilly · 3 Mar 2014 at 14:55

rpg said:
I was wondering about that. Does that mean that he could walk away despite killing someone (regardless of circumstances)?

Yes, of course. If it had been an intruder that night it wouldn't even be newsworthy now.

manic111 · 3 Mar 2014 at 14:57

rpg said:
I was wondering about that. Does that mean that he could walk away despite killing someone (regardless of circumstances)?

That I don't know. I'm not sure whether it's a subjective test (ie it's not unlawful to kill somebody you believe to be an intruder) or an objective test (ie it's not unlawful to kill somebody who is actually an intruder, regardless of your belief).

Edit: So I guess if it's the latter, it already is unlawful killing.

mmj_uk · 3 Mar 2014 at 15:15

I still don't understand how he could hear a noise in the bathroom and just automatically assume it's a burglar when he knew full well he was not home alone, a normal persons first thought would be "it'll be just my partner" so you just automatically check where they are.

What makes it all even more unbelievable is that he went to the bed anyway to grab his gun, again not even bothering to take one second to see if she was there, he claims to have loved her but it seems that he had did not give her much thought on the night. He is certainly guilty of negligence in my book. He's either paranoid or stupid, or both.

covenantuk · 3 Mar 2014 at 15:17

Oscar is using the "Ned Flanders" defence:

http://t.co/UMDREPjikt

robbiemc · 3 Mar 2014 at 15:22

Has anyone got any idea what his motivation for killing her was? (Assuming it was murder)

Fireskull · 3 Mar 2014 at 15:33

robbiemc said:
Has anyone got any idea what his motivation for killing her was? (Assuming it was murder)

Yeah she was going to leave him for this bloke

Cosimo · 3 Mar 2014 at 15:36

Fireskull said:
Yeah she was going to leave him for this bloke

The RSA DPP would like to hear from you.

Crpwned · 3 Mar 2014 at 15:38

mcast said:
if he's innocent I'll eat my legs

Quoting just in case he does manage to somehow miraculously get away with it.

nick.lidgett · 3 Mar 2014 at 15:55

robbiemc said:
Has anyone got any idea what his motivation for killing her was? (Assuming it was murder)

Like most women she was probably highly skilled in nagging and moaning

McBain · 3 Mar 2014 at 16:14

Must be pretty standard practice to go for a quick dump when you're on the rob in SA.

Energize · 3 Mar 2014 at 16:19

manic111 said:
Why "unlawful"?

I appreciate the point that, arguably, all killing is unlawful, but if it was a pure accident that's debateable.

Not all killing is unlawful, that's why it's called "unlawful killing", self defence is not unlawful, a "pure accident" is not unlawful.

It's reckless homicide, he didn't accidentally shoot through the bathroom door while having no idea who was on the other side.

nick.lidgett · 3 Mar 2014 at 16:20

McBain said:
Must be pretty standard practice to go for a quick dump when you're on the rob in SA.

Its quite normal for a burglars, high on adrenaline, to empty their bowels.

McBain · 3 Mar 2014 at 16:27

nick.lidgett said:
Its quite normal for a burglars, high on adrenaline, to empty their bowels.

I guess Oscar figured he had a considerate burglar.

starfighter · 3 Mar 2014 at 17:30

Guilty.

Cosimo · 3 Mar 2014 at 17:35

McBain said:
I guess Oscar figured he had a considerate burglar.

So he was considerate by shooting through the door.

bitslice · 3 Mar 2014 at 17:44

rpg said:
She also keeps reverting to the harrowing emotions she experienced on the night, which is frustrating. Just answer the questions.

I thought that
"...blood curdling screams"

give it a rest :rolleyes:

Regardless of whether he's guilty or not he needs locking up for being reckless with a gun.