The silly bint has now got her daughter off her anti-depressants and talked her into vaping CBD oil
I read that as GD oil and nearly gagged at the thought of what oil might be harvested from the frequenters of GD
Ouija boards - don't mess with them
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I read that as GD oil and nearly gagged at the thought of what oil might be harvested from the frequenters of GD
I don't believe in ghosts - let me just put that out there. I don't believe that souls of dead humans are floating around the planet in some kind of limbo/etc.
But I don't see how anyone could say, "With 100% certainty there are no other forms of life beyond or outside what we might refer to as the physical or observable universe".
So if you do not make that statement above, then one of the arising possibilities is that creatures exist which are equal to or surpassing human intelligence. With the ability to use subterfuge and/or deceit if desired.
In such a scenario, toying with humans might be highly amusing to them. Might be a form of sport, akin to toffs hunting foxes
In fact they don't even have to exist outside the physical universe necessarily - a large enough gulf in technological advancement may suffice (although I personally find this a less compelling explanation).
Soldato
Many people have based their careers on ghost hunting, being a psychic and so on. Irrefutable evidence would seal their fame forever, yet none is forthcoming.
Not only is there no photographic evidence of the ghosts and spirits,.there is no evidence full stop.. Apart from stories.
Even with like dark matter we have very little idea what it is but there is evidence to infer its existence. Ghosts and spirits.. Just stories.
If something in my bedroom took off and floated around the room right now or a ghost appeared then my opinion will change but until then I'm a non believer.
Not only is there no photographic evidence of the ghosts and spirits,.there is no evidence full stop.. Apart from stories.
Even with like dark matter we have very little idea what it is but there is evidence to infer its existence. Ghosts and spirits.. Just stories.
If something in my bedroom took off and floated around the room right now or a ghost appeared then my opinion will change but until then I'm a non believer.
Though more recent evidence (or rather a lack of evidence in certain tests) is calling into question its existence.
EDIT: I find it interesting that as things stand dark matter is about on the same level as the universe being a simulation in terms of evidence and potential explanations for things we don't quite understand go yet one gets taken a lot more seriously than the other.
Caporegime
You'd think out of the millions or billions of humans who've died in the last 2000+ years that if there were ghosts we'd see a lot more if them.
Man of Honour
It's only the ones in limbo we see.
Usually little baby Jesus and Satan know who to take in but once in a few 1000 deaths they're not sure, so this is what we see floating around, people waiting to be let in.
Honest.
they don't need it. people's belief is more than enough to keep them in a job. you just have to look up how many series of never-finding-anything ghost hunter crap there's been on the History channel etc to see that.
even in the face of multiple verified debunkings, people ignore it and keep going to see these people, Derren Brown/Ancorah being one example.
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Are there ghost monkeys, ghost dolphins, ghost wasps, ghost ants around the world also?
Or are we so arrogant to think that only english speaking ghosts are around about when you do a ouija board?
Or are we so arrogant to think that only english speaking ghosts are around about when you do a ouija board?
Soldato
It's orbs apparently. I accidentally watched a bit of Ghost Hunters once. Ex Blue Peter presenter screaming about nothing and saying they have seen floating orbs on their low light cameras.
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I think it's hilarious that some folk think it's totally reasonable to suggest spirits contact us in such manner... an upturned glass upon which must be placed a human finger, on a board with letters. Brilliant!
I love the way that to make it credible there must be at least 2 people taking part. If there was only one person "playing" no one would believe it.
You couldn't make this stuff up.... oh wait!
I love the way that to make it credible there must be at least 2 people taking part. If there was only one person "playing" no one would believe it.
You couldn't make this stuff up.... oh wait!
101 billion humans have died so far in the entire history of the Earth according to estimates. So thats 101,000,000,000...so if just 0.001% of those are ghosts, then thats 101,000,000 (101 million) ghosts. The human figure is of course dwarfed by animals, an estimated 10 to the 29th power of animals have ever lived on Earth (in number form thats 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) so if 0.000001% of those were ghosts, you would add 100 million billion animal ghosts to the 101 million human ghosts.
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Man of Honour
Ghosts don't exist.
I cannot believe this has to be discussed in 2018 lol!
I cannot believe this has to be discussed in 2018 lol!
Soldato
I'm pretty sure the LHC proved that ghosts cant exist. I don't recall the specifics though.
I don't think there is an equivalence. There is no evidence that the universe is a simulation, In fact I recall some researching showing it is incredibly unliekly (the current universie is finite in energy-matter, any universe used to build a computer to simulate would then also have finite computation, therefore you could never simulate infintie continuous functions and would need to make a discrete simulation, but there is zero evidence of any level of discreteness)). The evidence for dark matter is relatively basic observations around gravitational effects. While the exact nature is unknown, we do know that something exists to account for 85% of the universe' matter, or there are other major issues with the theory of gravity. And it is not just 1 or 2 areas that see effects that can only be explained by dark matter, there are dozens of completely distinct phenomena that can only be explained by dark matter or major changes to large parts of established theory.
i was about to write the exact same thing, but probably less clear.
Soldato
I ate a curry made with ghost pepper once, that was an other worldly experience, and after the initial impact I felt an unease in my stomach and then an extremely uncomfortable sensation as, i believe, something passed through me.
Problem is this falls into the fallacy of limiting any other existence by our understanding of our existence (also any level of discreteness could simply be beyond our ability [yet] to comprehend). Amongst other things there are many areas where the behaviour of information versus physical matter is as yet not fully understood or doesn't work as we expect where a simulation is as likely a fit as a candidate as dark matter is in the areas it has been proposed and likewise the lack of evidence even though they both would work to make those things function. Yet with one people get all bent out of shape if you suggest it, the other it's pretty much accepted as established by a lot of people despite being far from the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEpw2-D3KaI [information now a bit out of date]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm_2JrXcMyo [follow up]
I used to get abducted by aliens a lot, always when walking back from the pub. They'd erase my memory, steal all my cigarettes and fill my pockets with loose change before dumping me in my bed with my shoes still on.