Parenting question: Crying newborn

10 days is to young to self settle! At that age it probably hasn't got eating down to a t yet so what chance will it have learning to sleep :). By all means dont panic to pick it up but I'd certainly advise against leaving a baby of that age to cry for legths of time.

we allowed our daughter to sleep on our chests when she was young, then 6months came along and we did the self settling technique and she's been loving her sleep since.
Our son is a different story, we tried self settling much earlier, still holding his hand, patting his bum ect just not holding him, and it generally worked but he doesn't go into deep sleeps like his sister he's now 1 and pretty much a terrible sleeper.

Every kid is different and it may just be the differences in them but i would love to go back in time and change the way we approached it with our son.
 
Can I just say, from a woman's perspective, considering this is a mainly male dominated forum, this thread has been lovely to read today.

Go all of you lovely daddies who have given such brilliant advice. Heartwarming to read the comments. Babies want to be cuddled. You aren't spoiling them. My nephew is 12 weeks old today, and still settles much quicker/better when someone is holding him.

And now I'll stop acting like an utter girl. Seriously though, well done daddies :)
 
Just to add that we had the same problems with ours at first, I found that by lying on a beanbag with her on my chest she would sleep for up to three hours at a time. Ideal for getting in a gaming session while the Mrs got some sleep. Doesn't last long, they get too heavy/large though!
 
Checked into this thread this morning, the consensus seems to be leaving him to cry it out isn't the right action. It's good to hear that most don't think the baby will be learning any habits right now, which was our main concern

As for the posts suggesting we take this up with our midwife/health visitor, we will, but I think the practical experience of the multiple first time parents on the forum is absolutely invaluable; the advice here is excellent.

Honestly - I've never googled as many things in my whole life as I have in the first week of being a parent. However I honestly wouldn't swap it for anything, nothing beats having him fall asleep on your chest in the evening.

Didn't get round to trying swaddling yesterday but we'll try that today. Thanks again for all the advice
 
I've seen a tendency for parents to stand with their babies, but I didn't know why and hadn't really thought about it. So I've learnt something today, which is good.

But now I'm wondering about details. Is it height that the baby is going on? I don't see why that would be relevant. Is it movement? Your torso would move more when you're standing, but surely not enough to be relevant. Heartbeat, maybe? It would be a little higher when you're standing.

Hmm..maybe it is movement. Not simply from standing, but from a tendency to move your upper body (and thus the baby) a bit more when standing.

It is probably movement based, you just can't provide the same swing when sitting.

It is like a switch typically. I get our baby to fall a sleep in my arms while standing, was another 5 mins, then sit down, maintain the genetly rocking but within 30seconds she is crying her eyes out.

Sometimes it can go the otherway. Baby won't stop crying so I walk upstairs to give her to mum, after a few stairs she is fast asleep!

They are really used to bouncing up and down, swaying back and forth, listening to a deafening heart beat and being completely cramped and unable to move. Everything else is really foreign.
 
Goes against advice but putting my little one in his cot worked a treat. He just liked having room to stretch

If the baby is quiet without fussing then it is perfectly fine to put them to sleep like that.

This discussion is mostly about what to do when the baby refuses to sleep by itself brut is perfectly calm in your arms. - then leave them in your arms.
 
Goes against advice but putting my little one in his cot worked a treat. He just liked having room to stretch

It's funny our little one wouldn't sleep in the moses basket. She kept bumping against the side and waking up.

One night, after her waking up for the 3rd time in an hour we made up the cot and put her in that. Didn't hear anything after that until the late feed when we had to get her up!
 
Checked into this thread this morning, the consensus seems to be leaving him to cry it out isn't the right action. It's good to hear that most don't think the baby will be learning any habits right now, which was our main concern

As for the posts suggesting we take this up with our midwife/health visitor, we will, but I think the practical experience of the multiple first time parents on the forum is absolutely invaluable; the advice here is excellent.

Honestly - I've never googled as many things in my whole life as I have in the first week of being a parent. However I honestly wouldn't swap it for anything, nothing beats having him fall asleep on your chest in the evening.

Didn't get round to trying swaddling yesterday but we'll try that today. Thanks again for all the advice

My daughter and now my four month old twins never settled on their backs and have always gone down on their fronts :eek: ;). I'm not advising this but it is illustrative of the the fact is you have to find something that works for you. Each child is different.

You will get used to the level of the cries. Some cries will tell you that you can wait five minutes while others will tell you that you should go straight away. Over time you will figure it out. :)
 
We have a new born baby, only 10 days old at the moment. Thing is he will not settle anywhere other than in our arms. Putting him in his Moses basket results in constant screaming.

We know he's been fed, is clean and isn't too hot or cold, in short he just wants a fuss and some attention.

My opinion is that providing he is clean, not hungry and as far as we can tell not in pain, we should let him cry it out and get himself off to sleep. My fear is that constant picking up whilst crying will create a pattern and we'll have problems further down the line at 6 months.

My partner thinks this is a little too extreme for a 10 day old baby and that we should pick him up and give him a cuddle and sooth him back to sleep.

Neither of us are sure which option is correct so I'm looking for the experiences of any parents on the board who have had similar situations. Am I being too extreme given he is only 10 days old?

Haven't read all the replies so sorry if this is repeating the same info.

We learnt pretty quickly that our daughter soon got used to whatever we did and would cry until she either got it or tired herself out.

Some say that babies take up to 3 days to get used to new routines or new ways of doing things... doesn't help when you're sleep deprived.

I think that you know your own child, you're getting to know the cries and the hungry cry is different to other cries.

For us, if our daughter started to cry we would go in and check her and then give her 15 minutes and check on her again - that said, if she was getting so worked up then it wouldn't be fair to leave her for that long and could also cause her to get overheated.

It really is a guessing game. For us, we had problems with colic which we must have tried every bottle, teat, formula and medication (herbal and non-herbal).

Our daughter was in her own room after 2 weeks as we couldn't get any sleep with her snuffling about (we had monitor in our room and doors open so we could hear her).

A colleague of mine still has to put her hand on her son's chest and rub his chest until he falls asleep (nearly 4 now) and they have started to do the same with their daughter (now 1 year) and they will NOT sleep unless this is done - talk about a rod for your own back. Would I worry about doing this for a 10 day old, no, but ultimately if something works then why not! We used to prance around the kitchen when our daughter was weaning in order for her to eat... it worked though! Only once did I take my daughter out in the car to get her to sleep - it was such a hassle that there was no way I was going to do that again.

Our philosophy was don't start something we weren't willing to carry on.

Occasionally from about 6 months our daughter would wake in the night and want milk (bottle fed from 1 month) and we would give in as she would be ill or teething... she soon got used to this and would wake up and ask for milk when there was nothing wrong, we ended up putting water in a bottle in her bed and she would just drink that and go back to sleep... took a few nights to get her out of the habit of wanting milk though!

Parenting is all about trial and error but once you've nailed it, it'll all change again anyway so you won't get used to having a clue for long. It did get a bit easier after 12 weeks. Plus, each child is different so what worked for one child, isn't necessarily the case for the other.

Some things you could try, if you haven't already: those white noise devices or phone apps worked great for us, one of my wife's t-shirts that smelt of her in the cot, cellular blanket in a sausage around her the top of her head and each side of her.

We also learnt to listen to all advice given to us but only tried those things we 1) felt comfortable with and 2) were practical in our situation without putting unrealistic expectations upon ourselves.
 
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Congratulations on your new addition.

My youngsters were all different in the way they settled but the first month or two at least is a process of trial and error. You find out what they like, the sounds and situations that settle them. It's a whole new situation for them and you so it's time to get acquainted. Always be aware of excess crying and take advice from your midwife/health visitor if you have any concerns. On the whole it's not something to be unduly worried about, the baby and yourselves will settle into a routine before you know it.

Try everything you can think of that seems reasonable at least 10 times, they are fickle little people eventually they find something that soothes whatever is bothering them.

Have fun and enjoy the cuddles, they grow far too fast! my oldest is 18 in June and it dose not seem a minute since I was holding her for the first time.
 
We bought this cuddly sheep that makes sound that baby hears in womb, kinda a rushing heart beat sound. Also does white noise and lullaby

Worked a treat... Put it on and he falls asleep in less than a min often, and sends him back to sleep if restless in night

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Easidream-Ewan-the-Dream-Sheep/dp/B0040JSN7Y

Check user reviews, works for most baby's

My son before him had a auto Moses basket rocker... That worked quite well also.

Best thing we ever bought though is baby milk maker... So dam easy
 
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Congratulations
I'm pretty sure you're discovering there's not really a universal RTFM that applies to every child but here's something to consider for the future...

Your newborn child has just gone through the most traumatic experience of its life (birth).

At present it is just a blank hard-drive with a BIOS
Error beeps have not yet been defined !

The most likely reason your child cries when you put him down (apart from the security thing) is that when you are holding him the chances are his spine is more curved in your arms = comfortable/natural

realise that the only way a baby can communicate is to cry.
Your child will be going through IMMENSE internal shock/changes. ie: Did you suffer from growing pains at any time ? Your child is growing massively and now it can vocally tell you about it !

Sometimes they just want the air in their lungs- Even though you'd swear it's the other way round !!

Believe it or not...... Enjoy it.. They are but a child for a VERY short time !
 
There are two clear schools of thought for babies: let them cry - or hold them.

After much research and soul-searching we opted for the hold them option. Newborns especially are straight out of a lovely warm and noisy womb: in my opinion they need cuddling and skin-contact, they need to hear your heartbeats and voice, and if they are not happy, leaving them to cry is uncool, man.

This route requires a great deal more work, though, which is why many parents go for Gina Ford stuff and controlled crying.

My eldest was like yours, and we held her all the time which was very hard work, but she has grown up to be very confident and very brave when she's ill. She knows we are always there for her and will put her first. Another child I know very well, of the same age, closely-related, was brought up with controlled crying. He still has a comfort blanket and is a very poor patient. Not all kids are the same, but make of that what you will.

Totally agree. My kids were picked up when they cried, and they have grown up to be confident happy outgoing kids. Its not some kind of a game, babies don't need to be "trained", you should show them some love.

In the OPs case the baby has only been out the womb for a few days. They wont be able to see properly, and when they do open their eyes the light will be quite a shock, likewise with hearing and smell, it is going to be sensory overload for a good while.

If the baby is crying and wants a cuddle, then give it a cuddle, I would say it heartless and cruel not to. You've got something else you would rather be doing?
 
Take your shirt off, strip your baby down, have some skin on skin contact while he calms down.

This is not only OK, but expected. I was directed to do the same by our health visitor and my in-law, who is a senior district midwife and very handy to have around :)
 
Take your shirt off, strip your baby down, have some skin on skin contact while he calms down.

This is not only OK, but expected. I was directed to do the same by our health visitor and my in-law, who is a senior district midwife and very handy to have around :)

This too, I always did this, still do with my 4 y/o when he's out of sorts.
 
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