Paris attacks.

arctine · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:11

Raz said:
Strange how 'Islamic terrorism' wasn't a thing until quite recently. Strange also how early Muslims didn't randomly attack civilians in other nations. Even more strange to think that colonialism might have affected the Muslim mindset over generations.

But hey, it's cool to simplify everything and make the blame game easy

What are you talking about? Extremism has existed for thousands of years and not just in Islam.

Terrorism/murder/war has and will always exist whether it is under the guise of religion or not.

It is definitely not a modern problem and no one here has a solution. It can only ever be minimised.

The pathetic ignorance displayed in this thread is almost as sad as the warped minds of those who are carrying out attacks.

bitslice · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:12

Raz said:
Strange how 'Islamic terrorism' wasn't a big thing until quite recently.

Well apart from rampaging through Europe and North Africa during the first millennium, no. They all sat at home knitting... :rolleyes:

They butchered all of Spain for 300 years.

Sui · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:13

I really wish people wouldn't give these terrorists the pleasure of being labeled Muslims.

They aren't Muslims, they're scum.

sdfuk · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:13

35 dead, 100 hostages just reported

XeNoN89 · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:13

Around 100 hostages apparently and now 35 dead

Raz · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:13

maccapacca said:
http://www.howardbloom.net/militant_islam_map.gif

I'm pretty sure we could easily find a British map of the same ilk however it's daft to think any of this is new.

I don't think it's new, but it's not correct to assume that it's purely down to the religion given that world politics and international conflict/relations and development have a huge impact on other societies.

But as I say, early Muslims weren't exactly known for randomly attacking civilians in non-Muslim states because the 'Quran tells them to'.

scorza · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:14

Uther said:
All I remember growing up was the IRA, Baader Meinhof etc.Certainly never anything about 'muslims' good or bad. I suspect they weren't even a thought in most peoples minds in the seventies, even into the eighties.

I have a rather different recollection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

Things have definitely got a lot worse since 9/11 though, which was kinda the point of 9/11 - a call to arms.

1985420 · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:15

At least 40 confirmed dead now

StriderX · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:15

Sui said:
I really wish people wouldn't give these terrorists the pleasure of being labeled Muslims.

They aren't Muslims, they're scum.

They clearly are Muslims, afterall is it not the aim of current liberal thinking that if you think your a man then you are?

Can't have one and sweep the other away.

Raz · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:15

bitslice said:
Well apart from rampaging through Europe and North Africa during the first millennium, no. They all sat at home knitting...
They butchered all of Spain for 300 years.

Military Muslim/Islamic expansions. Do you think the Romans, British etc were terrorists as well?

Rofflay · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:15

Originally Posted by Raz View Post
Strange how 'Islamic terrorism' wasn't a thing until quite recently. Strange also how early Muslims didn't randomly attack civilians in other nations. Even more strange to think that colonialism might have affected the Muslim mindset over generations.

But hey, it's cool to simplify everything and make the blame game easy

Lies... Since the founding they have been going on Holy War, Ask India or the Buddhist Afghans or the Christians in the Middle East who have all been butchered or converted. People like you are just as bad as an Islamic terrorist. You both give Islamization and the lies of peace merit.

This is your "Moderate" Muslims? God help us all.

XeNoN89 · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:16

Sui said:
I really wish people wouldn't give these terrorists the pleasure of being labeled Muslims.

They aren't Muslims, they're scum.

Trying to pretend these terrorists aren't muslim or aren't doing this is the name of islam is just trying to ignore the problem. I know all muslims aren't terrorists but the percentage that are or support some of their extremist views is significant and ignoring that is an absolute joke.

Malevolence · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:16

Will be interesting to see how many of these animals were freely waved into Europe by Merkel and greeted by the placard waving loony lefties?

bitslice · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:16

Sui said:
I really wish people wouldn't give these terrorists the pleasure of being labeled Muslims.

They aren't Muslims, they're scum.

What about the Muslims who stone women, are they scum or just culturally regressive?

mithrandir · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:16

40 dead butu I have a feeling it will rise especially with the hostages and from what I heard, suicide bomber, AK47 gunmen and others had grenades.

Raz · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:16

attackers mentioned Syria...

walkman · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:16

WATCH: Deadly shootings, explosions in Paris

http://www.cjad.com/cjad-news-quebec-beyond/2015/11/13/watch-deadly-shootings-explosions-in-paris

ic1male · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:16

Crikey. And 100 hostages possibly in the club.

Uther · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:17

1985420 said:
At least 40 confirmed dead now

Terrible.

Psycho Ned · 13 Nov 2015 at 22:17

if they've got 100 hostages there must be a hell of a lot of them in that concert hall you'd think. Can't be that easy to cover off such a building with 1 or 2 people.