Caporegime
That unbiased fella gives his views on the Titan X. Not watched it myself but I am sure he is bigging it up 
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Pascal Titan-X Launch
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My sides.
Really looking forward to his review, though. Hopefully he actually owns the product, this time.
Caporegime
Yes. When? Who knows except NVidia.
The RX480 matches the pe performance and power cons utmoion of the970 released 2 years ago on a larger 28nm process, so AMD are still around 2 years behind.
Caporegime
Another look at the potential performance of the Pascal TX
If that performance speculation is right, that's ~23% more performance for ~80% more cost. It will all come down to how high the Titan-XP can overclock really.
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I'd be expecting more than 23% performance increase, lets have a look at the previous Gen:
GTX 980 Ti vs 980 non Ti
base clock 1000mhz vs 1126mhz 12% decrease
Cuda cores 2816 vs 2048 37% increase
Rops 96 vs 64 50% increase
Transistors 8 billion vs 5.2 billion 53% increase
texture mapping units 176 vs 128 37% increase.
Memory bandwidth 336gb/s vs 224gb/s 50% increase
Now roughly both at complete stock the 980 Ti is around 30-35% faster than the 980.
GTX Titan X Pascal vs GTX 1080
base clock 1417mhz vs 1607 13% decrease (1% less than 980 Ti > 980)
Cuda cores 3584 vs 2560 40% increase (3% improvement from 980 Ti>980)
Rops 96? vs 64 50% increase (same as 980 Ti > 980)
Transistors 12 billion vs 7.2 billion 66% increase (13% improvement from 980 Ti > 980)
texture mapping units 224? vs 160 40% improvement (3% improvement from 980 Ti > 980)
memory bandwidth 480 gb/s vs 320 gb/s 50% increase (same as 980 Ti > 980)
so with all that being said on paper this new Titan fares better against the 1080 than what the 980 Ti does against the Non Ti 980 and look at the performance difference between the 980 Ti and 980. I think people could be in for a shock and this new Titan card could deliver upto around 40% improvement against 1080
Soldato
^It could do but that being said is 30-40% justifiable with double the price?
It all depends on clocks. If it manages 1800mhz it's going to struggle there. A Ti/TX could match a 980 on clocks but will we see that this time around?
Don't get me wrong it's going to be a crazy card for sure. Considering swapping my 1080's for one. But that price will be the decider. 1-1 at £12-1300 after gouging. No thanks.
I also am very doubtful of a Ti this gen. It will have to be 12gb and 2-300 less cores. Not much cheaper than TXP if they decide to do so.
It all depends on clocks. If it manages 1800mhz it's going to struggle there. A Ti/TX could match a 980 on clocks but will we see that this time around?
Don't get me wrong it's going to be a crazy card for sure. Considering swapping my 1080's for one. But that price will be the decider. 1-1 at £12-1300 after gouging. No thanks.
I also am very doubtful of a Ti this gen. It will have to be 12gb and 2-300 less cores. Not much cheaper than TXP if they decide to do so.
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this exactly, I can't see any room for a Ti what Vram do they give it 9gb based on a 384 bit bus? 1gb more than a 1070/1080? couldn't see it happening but they they wouldn't give it the same as their TITAN card.. could they? I'm still expecting this card to get a heavy price cut after all the gouging and competition comes Nvidias way by then yields will be better and we'll get the Full Titan OR they could really screw over the titan owners and release a 1080 Ti using a fully fledged gp102 core with 12gb Vram to annihilate the competition..... when they face it that is.
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Will my 3770k be a bottle neck for this bad boy? I am not planning on gong SLI !
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1080p cpu dependent games sure you'll benefit from a beefier cpu though you'll still be getting perfect performance from this card so it wont matter unless you're on a 120/144hz monitor
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will we get reviews on 2nd august do people reckon? I am looking forward to seeing how this card performs however, the first card that can literally beat 980 sli, and I remember back when I had a single 780 Ti and was blown away by it 
if this card once overclocked at least can match 980 Tis at stock in sli I'll be impressed!
if this card once overclocked at least can match 980 Tis at stock in sli I'll be impressed!
No, they don't need to, they have all the various market price points conquered with superior products.
NVIDIA will be very happy keeping the 1080 at the usual ti's price point, as it nets them more profit. Smaller die = cheaper to make.
I imagine NVIDIA will only release a 1080ti if AMD manage to threaten the 1080 with Vega - which is doubtful, plus is a very far way away from release (as confirmed by Raja himself on twitter).
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I don't see any reason why they would this time round. Unless AMD can release a proper challenger to the 1080 then there is no reason to do so. It would be bad for business as they will only take their own market share away from the 1080 with a card that costs them more to make.
I expect to see a lot of disappointed people waiting for a TI card that is never released this time. Unless AMD surprise us and pull something special out the bag in which case we might get lucky. Otherwise they may even release a second Titan/TI card that is more expensive than the Titan X rather than cheaper. Why cut costs if you don't have any competition?
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Unfortunately I don't see them announcing it as they will want to keep the possibility in their back pocket in case AMD surprise them with a seriously competitive card and they have to release a cheaper TI card to match it.
620 for a mid range 1080 is not justifiable