Pascal Titan-X Launch

easyrider · 24 Jul 2016 at 01:17

Dave2150 said:
No, as then they'd look rather foolish if AMD forces their hand with a 1080 toppling GPU (though very unlikely for a long time).

Amd are out the game.

DmitryD · 24 Jul 2016 at 01:33

D3K said:
Wouldn't they publically announce "no Ti", so those people waiting commit to either 1080 or titan?

They'll never rule it out publicly as it would give AMD advantage in planning.

DmitryD · 24 Jul 2016 at 01:40

humbug said:
While its very unpopular to say so IMO Polaris has already made huge inroads into improving AMD past efficiency.

They have taken what was around 280 Watts performance and turned it into 160 Watts performance, Nvidia have also improved on Maxwell but no where near the amount of improvements AMD have managed to pull off, while Nvidia still lead, a 40-50 Watt difference between the RX 480 and GTX 1060 is not as bigger deal as many like to make out, and thats in DX11, in Vulkan where the RX 480 true performance is i would say its actually a draw in power to performance.

Vega should improve AMD efficiency more.

It's mainly due to 14nm process gain vs 28nm, where as NVIDIA managed to get big power reductions on 28nm already, which is why Pascal kicks bottom of Polaris.

DmitryD · 24 Jul 2016 at 01:42

titaniumx3 said:
Why are people so desperate for HBM2? Is it really going to magically tranform the performance of these cards? What evidence is there that HBM is currently making a substantial difference, if any?

HBM2 is lower power usage, so more cores can be enabled, plus it's important that HBM makers getting the money to facilitate development of future memory rather than keep milking same GDDR5 stuff.

Insanties_birth · 24 Jul 2016 at 07:47

easyrider said:
That's not NV fault it's amd they are not delivering any competition.

Nvidia are winning so no argument but that doesn't make buying card after card suddenly make sense. If someone was buying AMD then Nvidia then AMD whenever a slight better GPU came out I doubt the AMD element would make that decision making process better

nashathedog · 24 Jul 2016 at 09:51

harry5522 said:
I think DSR isn't really as good as it's said to be in my opinion i simply can't see a massive difference over the monitors stock resolution. IE a 1080p DSRed to 1440p looks no where near as good as a 1440p screen.

It's best not to look at it as a resolution upgrade, Instead look at it as an additional graphics setting, It does make a small difference so there is a reason to use it just like there is a reason to use one type of Anti Aliasing over another.

Sem · 24 Jul 2016 at 10:25

Telecaster said:
He's right though, $1000 isn't a consumer price point, it's an enthusiast price point.

no its a mugs price point

Jono8 · 24 Jul 2016 at 10:33

The odd thing about this is the vram. I really thought they would go with 16gb and give the 1080Ti (when it comes out) 12gb, so as to differentiate them, as per previous generations.

What is the 1080ti going to get, 10gb? :confused:

Griffildur · 24 Jul 2016 at 10:36

Jono8 said:
The odd thing about this the vram. I really thought they would go with 16gb and give the 1080Ti (when it comes out) 12gb, so as to differentiate them, as per previous generations.

What is the 1080ti going to get, 10gb?

yeah that bit confuses me as well. I still think there will be a 1080 TI in a few months, maybe even in time for Christmas. I am even going to propose 12 GB of memory. Maybe it will even be this much acclaimed HMB 2 memory!

Where does that leave the current Titan X? No idea ....

Strife212 · 24 Jul 2016 at 10:46

There will be a 12GB Ti and a 16/24GB Titan Black.

Don't buy this...

nomadd · 24 Jul 2016 at 11:18

Can't wait for the first posts along the line of:

I've just purchased a Titan Pascal card; it cost me £1200. It seems to have terrible coil-whine. Do they all do this? Can I send it back? There don't seem to be any replacements in stock... OKUK Support say it's not a fault, so won't accept a return..

Etc., etc.

JanM · 24 Jul 2016 at 11:26

1080Ti will only release if AMD release a competitive card. I can't see AMD doing that for a while yet. :rolleyes:

The previous Ti's were only released to counteract the AMD cards.

DazQ87 · 24 Jul 2016 at 11:30

JanM said:
1080Ti will only release if AMD release a competitive card. I can't see AMD doing that for a while yet.

The previous Ti's were only released to counteract the AMD cards.

Pretty much this, the 980ti only came out at the time/price it did because the fury-x came out.

Don't expect to see a 1080ti with considerably better price/performance ratio untill big vega turns up.

Vega · 24 Jul 2016 at 14:42

If you think about it, they cannot release a higher end Titan-XP "black edition". This Titan-XP is already black.

Telecaster · 24 Jul 2016 at 14:45

It makes sense that any potential Ti/Titan XP 2 will be saved for whatever Big Vega (if it ever appears) ends up being.

easyrider · 24 Jul 2016 at 14:48

Everyone hopes that amd will deliver...and it's just not going to happen

Mayh3M · 24 Jul 2016 at 14:51

It's incredible how many people get so visibly upset at the idea that people buy high end Nvidia cards.

As the gulf between AMD and Nvidia becomes ever wider, they seem to be getting angrier and angrier.

Griffildur · 24 Jul 2016 at 14:54

Mayh3M said:
It's incredible how many people get so visibly upset at the idea that people buy high end Nvidia cards.

As the gulf between AMD and Nvidia becomes ever wider, they seem to be getting angrier and angrier.

yes, I've noticed that as well, it feels like desperation and envy ( in an angry manner ) against anyone who dares contemplate the idea of buying a high end product they don't approve of.

How else can one justify the name calling and insults, once they are called out and proven that they have no technical argument at all.

Vega · 24 Jul 2016 at 15:21

easyrider said:
Everyone hopes that amd will deliver...and it's just not going to happen

Unfortunately I think AMD is going to give up on the high end GPU market and focus on low to mid range at decent prices.

I could foresee high-end $2000 GPU's from NVIDIA within a couple of years.

Griffildur · 24 Jul 2016 at 15:28

Vega said:
Unfortunately I think AMD is going to give up on the high end GPU market and focus on low to mid range at decent prices.

I could foresee high-end $2000 GPU's from NVIDIA within a couple of years.

well the card which bears your name ( or we can think of it the other way around! ) is supposed to be top end. So, they haven't given up just yet.