Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Yeah, I agree.

I got through it in 140 hours, and for some parts of the game (perhaps most of it even) I felt it was nigh-on perfect and possibly the best RPG I'd played since Planescape: Torment. There were times the combat felt so tactical, the party synergy so elegant and the victories so sweet and well-earned. There were times I'd realise something was or wasn't happening because of choices I'd made 20 or 30 hours earlier. There were epic side-quests stretching across chapters and dozens and dozens of hours. There was such a variety and depth of feats, spells, build choices, multiclass possibilites, items and effects that I felt I could play for years and still only scratch the surface.

And then there were times like the House, or, even worse I felt, the last level before the final boss. Hours of utter, utter tedium and the absolute pits of level design, throwing wave after wave of the same spongy enemy at you and setting up the same ambush mechanic over and over and over again. And some arbitrary feeling consequences that shut you out of certain paths for reasons hard to fathom. And, oh... how arcane and poorly explained so much of the game felt until you'd already made many mistakes. I realised I'd completely neglected some questlines because they started with a kingdom event card that got lost in the massive deck of one of my lesser-visited groups of tasks. There were odd difficulty spikes out of nowhere right throughout and the final boss was oddly such a pushover.

I have to say I enjoyed so much of the game to such a degree that I can overlook many of the faults, but sadly not all of them. I hope they build on the strengths and address the weaknesses in the next game.
 
I'd agree with that too and I've been playing the pnp version for years and hardly scratch the surface of the lore (more difficult when it comes to homebrew games). This is why I try different builds to see what will happen. I do tend to stop when I get to the house and end the game there as it annoys me so much.

I think Baldurs Gate 3 is shaping up nicely and although I've only played it a few times (pnp) I prefer the system as its not as heavily involved as Pathfinder.
 
I've put baldurs gate 3 at the back of my mind until full release, did the same with cyberpunk but that's out tomorrow so I can revel in that ^_^
 
I've put baldurs gate 3 at the back of my mind until full release, did the same with cyberpunk but that's out tomorrow so I can revel in that ^_^

Same with me for BG3. I just installed Kingdom Come to keep my mind off Cyberpunk while I wait to see if it's in need of some patching and/or I need to upgrade my PC to get the best out of it...
 
I've put baldurs gate 3 at the back of my mind until full release, did the same with cyberpunk but that's out tomorrow so I can revel in that ^_^
I still have BG3 installed and check their updates but yeah, probably not going to play any more until release. I already dumped over 30 hours into the currently available content and still feel like there's so much I missed or could do differently
 
Just been reading a news piece on the new beta, apparently those who paid $15 for access to the alpha build don't get access to the beta and have to pay another $65 on top of that! If this doesn't tell you not to entertain paying for early access I don't know what will. And I am assuming here that beta backers won't then have stump some more cash on full release.
 
Just been reading a news piece on the new beta, apparently those who paid $15 for access to the alpha build don't get access to the beta and have to pay another $65 on top of that! If this doesn't tell you not to entertain paying for early access I don't know what will. And I am assuming here that beta backers won't then have stump some more cash on full release.

Why is it $65? You can get beta access for $30

EDIT : ahh I see , the $30 beta access one was a limited time offer which has expired now
 
Yeah, I debated on 'upgrading' my collector's bundle to get the Beta access... but when I saw they wanted the additional price of a AAA game on top of the $115 I had already paid for all the collector's goodies, that put me right off.
I think I'll just quietly wait for it to be finished.
 
Started this game yesterday, bought it for a tenner, is the season pass worth getting?

You know it's a good in-depth RPG when it takes a good half hour and a video guide to make your character. Went with a half orc barbarian who seems to have a good charge attack that turns enemies to pulp on one or two hits.
 
Nice , Owlcat has just announced a season pass for Pathfinder 2 which includes 3 DLCs, 2 additional campaigns (roughly 7 hours each) and a roguelike mode.
 
Defo going to be the game I play most this year I expect (along with encased full release). Still wait until end of Sep I think, let any issues flesh out even though looks solid from previews.
 
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