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PATIENCE - IF PLANNING TO BUY A 50 SERIES..........

harmattan said:
That's precisely what I was just thinking. The Astral, for example, doesn't have some sort of special engineering that requires R&D or rare-earlth elements. I haven't seen a tear down, but certain it's simply a bigger aluminum rad with slightly larger copper pipes in the same tried-and-true configuration for the past 35 years, and maybe some binning. Is the extra £800 for fan profile tuning?
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There is a review for the astral which has memory temp at 66c and suprims mem hotspot at 77c. But like always there is only one real way to find out.

Go @LtMatt

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MissChief said:
Although I'll admit this place is rather biased compared to the general public, the sheer number of prospective buyers of the 5090 despite the £500 increase (25%) over the 4090 for what appears to be a direct 20% 'improvement' rather strange, and also directly feeds into extortionate pricing. Why do nvidia have any incentive at all to produce a seismic jump in performance when they can drip out a 20% improvement every 3 years and people lap it up like an oasis in the desert.
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I feel like most of the interest I've seen is from people who didn't get a 40 series. I think the line up is a bit awkward in that there's no middle ground between the 5080 and the 5090, and since the 4090 stopped production months ago leading to high new/used prices that's not a fantastic alternative either. So you either deal with the 5080s issues, like the fact its not that much of a performance upgrade over the 4080 and it's lack of VRAM or you go whole hog and get a 5090. In many ways the series is just disappointing from both ends since neither card feels that satisfying.
 
Rawr said:
I feel like most of the interest I've seen is from people who didn't get a 40 series. I think the line up is a bit awkward in that there's no middle ground between the 5080 and the 5090, and since the 4090 stopped production months ago leading to high new/used prices that's not a fantastic alternative either. So you either deal with the 5080s issues, like the fact its not that much of a performance upgrade over the 4080 and it's lack of VRAM or you go whole hog and get a 5090. In many ways the series is just disappointing from both ends since neither card feels that satisfying.
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Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
 
Rawr said:
I feel like most of the interest I've seen is from people who didn't get a 40 series. I think the line up is a bit awkward in that there's no middle ground between the 5080 and the 5090, and since the 4090 stopped production months ago leading to high new/used prices that's not a fantastic alternative either. So you either deal with the 5080s issues, like the fact its not that much of a performance upgrade over the 4080 and it's lack of VRAM or you go whole hog and get a 5090. In many ways the series is just disappointing from both ends since neither card feels that satisfying.
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They've definitely left a gap for a potential 5080 TI with 24GB of VRAM. Who would have thought that a 1600 quid 4090 would have turned out to be such a great investment. More than 2 years later and you can sell it for the same price it was bought for!
 
Octoplex7 said:
They've definitely left a gap for a potential 5080 TI with 24GB of VRAM. Who would have thought that a 1600 quid 4090 would have turned out to be such a great investment. More than 2 years later and you can sell it for the same price it was bought for!
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Yep and it's looking like for those who need an upgrade could end up paying almost the same price as a 4090 for a 5080 with an AIB model this time around depending on stock levels for a slower card with less Vram and over 2 years later lol.

That's the Nvidia effect, As much as I have had Nvidia GPUs in my rig for many years now they are slowly but surely irritating me and the gamer community by trying to force everyone to opt for the flagship every time with their pricing and product segmentation to get any sort of meaningful upgrade.
 
Adrian1976 said:
Yep and it's looking like for those who need an upgrade could end up paying almost the same price as a 4090 for a 5080 with an AIB model this time around depending on stock levels for a slower card with less Vram and over 2 years later lol.

That's the Nvidia effect, As much as I have had Nvidia GPUs in my rig for many years now they are slowly but surely irritating me and the gamer community by trying to force everyone to opt for the flagship every time with their pricing and product segmentation to get any sort of meaningful upgrade.
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It's going to be tough to justify buying the 5080. I wouldn't blame someone if they did, as anything less will be a side-grade for so many. It's almost like undergoing some kind of humiliation ritual.
 
Octoplex7 said:
Maybe pick up a used 4080 Super if the price is right. Might be able to grab one that still has a warranty as well.
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I think it would have to be significantly cheaper for me to even consider it.

I've recently built a new PC and gone pretty top of the line: 9800X3D, 4K OLED monitor etc.,so I think I need a 5080 at least to enjoy it at its full. My poor 3070 was not designed for such conditions!

I'll try and get a 5080 at launch but I'm not feeling at all optimistic about it. The FE would be the dream, but I imagine it'll be borderline impossible.
 
Cig Bhungus said:
I think it would have to be significantly cheaper for me to even consider it.

I've recently built a new PC and gone pretty top of the line: 9800X3D, 4K OLED monitor etc.,so I think I need a 5080 at least to enjoy it at its full. My poor 3070 was not designed for such conditions!

I'll try and get a 5080 at launch but I'm not feeling at all optimistic about it. The FE would be the dream, but I imagine it'll be borderline impossible.
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Sounds like a nice set up. Have you considered the 5070 TI? Same amount of VRAM as the 5080 and probably (hopefully) similar performance to the 4080?
 
Octoplex7 said:
Sounds like a nice set up. Have you considered the 5070 TI? Same amount of VRAM as the 5080 and probably (hopefully) similar performance to the 4080?
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It's an option, but I reckon it'll probably be a similar situation with availability. I think the 5070 TI is likely to be more sought-after than the 5080.
 
Octoplex7 said:
It's going to be tough to justify buying the 5080. I wouldn't blame someone if they did, as anything less will be a side-grade for so many. It's almost like undergoing some kind of humiliation ritual.
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With the low stock and over inflated prices this time around it's going to be hard to justify anu of these at all to be honest.
 
scubes said:
Wouldn't touch the 5080.
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And it likely has the best price/performance uptick of the series... at a depressing 15%. It's a mediocre product purpose built to cut down component costs and push enthusiasts to 5090 and into a corner to upgrade again once the mid-cycle 5080 Ti is out. But if you're coming from the 3-series and were looking to upgrade anyways, it's not a horrible proposition: it's a 4080 Super Ti for £1200 (which is what you will pay retail).
 
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