Pentagon releases UFO footage

Monies on a new book or a TV series coming out but, regardless of it being true or not, i doubt us average joes will ever hear anything worthy from it all.

Screeeech said:
...otherwise Elon's rockets wouldn't continue to explode...
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It's usually what prototypes do...

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It sounds like another whistleblower has been revealed. Jonathan Gray from NASIC a generation officer of the United States intelligence community with a top-Secret Clearance currently working for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center. Who's job was UAP analysis. Its been revealed document exist that prove US captured a UFO over Sicily, Italy, from Mussolini. Which is interesting as Italy was the first country in the world to release military data on UFOs.

This is looking less and less like a bunch of con artists trying to sell a book which seems to be the favourite debunk at the moment.
 
Pottsey said:
He followed the whistle blower process and testified before Congress under oath and handed over 100s of pages and hours of recordings as evidence and going into specifics with specific dates. Some Senators have vouched for him. This really happened. Which adds creditability to his story.
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With regard to this point.

If it was true, that this guy testified before Congress under oath and provided 100s of pages and hours of recordings as evidence, (presumably evidence substantiating the claims about alien flying saucers) then we’d likely hear a little more than, quote “some senators vouched for him”

You’re talking about the single most profound and incredible thing to ever happen, and some people are like “yeah we vouch for him”

If this was true, he he provided the things you said he did and it was legit, I’d imagine an absolute meltdown and media frenzy, the likes of which we’ve never seen, it would be absolute carnage, I cannot imagine the chaos.
 
So one of these people was a UAP analyst.. was he one that couldn't figure out it was a triangular iris of the camera used to record an UAP event?

This is looking precisely like a con artist trying to sell a book, especially if they can do it whilst being protected under law.

Lets get Avi Loeb on this, he at least wants to believe in aliens but tempers that with some scientific approach and rigour..

FFS, I know prominent surgeons pioneering cutting edge therapies who are creationists and beleive dinosaurs didn't exist.. be very careful about appealing to authority without opening things up to the scientific community to peer review and pull apart..
 
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Screeeech said:
With regard to this point.

If it was true, that this guy testified before Congress under oath and provided 100s of pages and hours of recordings as evidence, (presumably evidence substantiating the claims about alien flying saucers) then we’d likely hear a little more than, quote “some senators vouched for him”

You’re talking about the single most profound and incredible thing to ever happen, and some people are like “yeah we vouch for him”

If this was true, he he provided the things you said he did and it was legit, I’d imagine an absolute meltdown and media frenzy, the likes of which we’ve never seen, it would be absolute carnage, I cannot imagine the chaos.
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Isn't that what what was described as happening in Congress last weekend. “it created quite hornet’s nest in Washington” if this is true like you say we should hear more.
 
Pottsey said:
Isn't that what what was described as happening in Congress last weekend
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Not really.

I just don’t really think you understand if I’m honest.

The scale, the disruption, the sheer realisation of it - if true, would produce effects which are unimaginable for our species.

It could never be contained by anyone, not for five minutes
 
Sankari said:
No they didn't, that's pure fantasy.
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I think there might be confusion over his legit "Area 51" docs. There are authenticated phone directories that have him listed, and i think pay stubs but don't qoute me on that. All his other employment records will be classified and probably lead to some of the cover-up theories.
 
Crazy how these aliens are so advanced they're capable of interstellar travel, but for some strange reason they have no idea how to (a) contact Earth's governments, civil authorities, and global media, or (b) land safely and communicate with the public. They don't even have the capacity to invade and dominate our comparatively primitive species.

Very weird.

:confused: :rolleyes:
 
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Sankari said:
Crazy how these aliens are so advanced they're capable of interstellar travel, but for some strange reason they have no idea how to (a) contact Earth's governments, civil authorities, and global media, or (b) land safely and communicate with the public. They don't even have the capacity to invade and dominate our comparatively primitive species.

Very weird.

:confused: :rolleyes:
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It’s all about parking. They obviously sent women alien pilots :p
 
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Or they're just autonomous drones sent out in all directions to document what's out there. It's the exact same direction we humans are heading in our lifetimes as the advancement of AI and ML is currently in a sort of gold-rush state and quantum computing being the next step in the 2030s.

Once again this is a topic discussed by John Michael Godier recently:


AI /will/ be how "humans" explore space and generally take over our lives, not the other way round.
 
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labbby said:
It’s all about parking. They obviously sent women alien pilots :p
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I think the London congestion charge is scaring them off. :eek:

mrk said:
Or they're just autonomous drones sent out in all directions to document what's out there.
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Then they're doing a **** poor job of it. And how much longer do they need to keep this up before they make contact?

Looks like we got stuck with the dumb aliens after all. What a bunch of *******. :rolleyes:
 
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With the way humanity is heading, and I guess limits on what a biological lifeform can accomplish, I do wonder if an alien race would be part artificial?
 
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Sankari said:
I think the London congestion charge is scaring them off. :eek:



Then they're doing a **** poor job of it. And how much longer do they need to keep this up before they make contact?

Looks like we got stuck with the dumb aliens after all. What a bunch of *******. :rolleyes:
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Would they ever need to make contact though? Do we ever try to make contact with slugs and ants? We observe them through our glass lenses round the clock in the name of science, yet rarely stop to see if they've reached a certain level of intelligence.

At the moment in the state that our evolution as humans is in, any access to unlimited energy to do as we please would result in those in power who are already full of greed and the thrill of being in control would only get more so. Then there's the ultra religious crazies who want nothing more than to destroy everything that goes against their strict teachings. Humans are also very feeble and think anything greater than them will just destroy them whilst citing history as examples (Columbus to the Americas, etc) - We only know humankind, so naturally we will think the worst case scenario all the time, because it's what we would do to other humans.

Logically I can only see contact being made (if they exist) when humans are at the same scientific and technological level as them, and that's as an entire species, not just a think tank of scientists striving to try to make the world a better place. We need to evolve more, basically.

Said it before in another thread, but personally don't think any beings out there who are whizzing around in space have any bad intentions whatsoever. Having the capability of even doing such a thing like exploring space puts them on a level way beyond any trivial things that human society has like conflict or bad vibes towards others.

We just think aliens landing here would probably take over us because that's what we did to natives of foreign lands in the past and what some nations are still doing to this day. That's not intelligence.
 
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wolfie138 said:
I think there might be confusion over his legit "Area 51" docs. There are authenticated phone directories that have him listed, and i think pay stubs but don't qoute me on that. All his other employment records will be classified and probably lead to some of the cover-up theories.
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You're getting mixed up with the Bob Lazar who worked there with the BOB LAZAR who was a witness to UFOs and Aliens.
 
Sankari said:
Crazy how these aliens are so advanced they're capable of interstellar travel, but for some strange reason they have no idea how to (a) contact Earth's governments, civil authorities, and global media, or (b) land safely and communicate with the public. They don't even have the capacity to invade and dominate our comparatively primitive species.

Very weird.

:confused: :rolleyes:
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Current thinking is what ever these world wide Orb things are, they are unmanned. Which would also explain why some crashed as if you do 10,000+ flights of unmanned probes/drones at some point something will go wrong and crash. While the silver orbs do appear to be real that doesn't mean they are interstellar aliens. More likely they are just some sort of autonomous drones of some sort.
 
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Screeeech said:
It could never be contained by anyone, not for five minutes
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Much as I’d love it to come out that humans are in possession of non man made craft, it would never be released by some whistleblower. If it were true and there was even the slightest chance it was going to leak, these whistleblowers would either be ‘removed’ in a massive cover up or more likely the US president would already have announced he’s going to address the nation.
Again I’d really love to be wrong but I imagine in due course this guys story will get picked apart.
 
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