David hasn't leaked any classified data for that reason. Instead he is following correct procedure for reporting.
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It hasn't been kept secret people have been talking about Roswell for 40 years, Varginha (Brazil) since 1996 etc. The idea of UFO cover-ups was mainstream long before that. I mean it's so deep in our pop culture, we had the X-Files and a show called Roswell, video games with UFO cover-ups etc etc.
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People like Leonardo believed it but there is a world of difference between achieving 20mph and traveling at the speed of light from 4000 light years away.
This is if they are Aliens travelling from other planets. David Grusch didn't say that.
Well to play devil advocate all the signs are there that it has not been kept fully secret and has been leaking like a siv for 60+ years. If it turns out to be real which is a massive "if" given the lack of hard evidence. If we look back there have been a lot of signs its real one of which is the large number of government workers, military, engineers for private companies all reporting this is true. Its not like this suddenly came out of nowhere or that this is just 1 single person. Just look at how many high ranking officials who have worked directly in the government UFO departments have come out to say its real along with all the military officers. Again playing devil advocate how come world wide just about every major government has a UFO task force and how come multiple staff from these task forces as saying they have seen things? Saying that I am not convinced myself and wont be without hard evdeince.
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Yes, the technology to do it.
So he can go on with Ross Coultard and start talking about aliens, spilling the beans on their secret reverse engineering project, recovering alien bodies from flying-saucers, and these highly secret, illegal DOD people will have no problem?
Yeah - that makes sense!!
I don't understand.
He went on with that Coultard geezer and talked about how the the government has been recovering aliens and alien bodies, and that people had been hurt or killed by them, how the hell is that not classified?
How has he been able to go on, out in the open and just talk about that happening, and it's all fine - and the DOD doesn't care...
It doesn't add up at all,
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Hehehehe, I dont care if it's not true, it's still entertaining
Hehehehe, I dont care if it's not true, it's still entertaining
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Hehehehe, I dont care if it's not true, it's still entertaining
Yeah that is pretty funny, also the comments of people who are buying into it 100% are even funnier.
Although on a more interesting note - it's always the same people (In this case, Steven Greer), that keep popping up with this sort of thing, every single time - it's the same bunch of nut jobs;
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Yeah that is pretty funny, also the comments of people who are buying into it 100% are even funnier.
Although on a more interesting note - it's always the same people (In this case, Steven Greer), that keep popping up with this sort of thing, every single time - it's the same bunch of nut jobs;
As always, i'm open minded about this subject but this is pushing it too far
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Doesn't square if he's freely talking about classified information to the media; it's very much, black and white on what you can and can't do with classified information.
I'm glad i'm not the only one
He's either leaking information but, that doesn't hold water given his freedom; it's not classified information; he's grifting and it's all complete BS; or, it's a disinformation ploy.
My money is currently on the latter two...
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I agree that this does not add up for the reasons you say. But I also have a problem with the BS point of view as that doesn't add up either. The problem with grifting and BS is it doesn’t make sense at the moment based on what we know. He has everything to lose, gave up a very high paid, high-end job and risks extensive jail time and nothing to gain as he isn’t even making money from this. Plus, if it’s all BS why are so many people supporting him? Why are all the other whistle-blowers saying the same thing? Why do the people who have seen the so called evidence say it is credible?Doesn't square if he's freely talking about classified information to the media; it's very much, black and white on what you can and can't do with classified information.
I'm glad i'm not the only one
He's either leaking information but, that doesn't hold water given his freedom; it's not classified information; he's grifting and it's all complete BS; or, it's a disinformation ploy.
My money is currently on the latter two...
Despite Screeech’s made up fake narrative it’s not all the same people as most of them are real officials who worked directly inside the UAP departments for the government and would have had access to the real UAP data. Yes external BSers and usually culprits are trying to tag themselves into this. But the actual whistle-blowers and leakers are not the usual suspect nor are they trying to make money from this. They are highly regarded, high ranking members of the government and/or military.
If this is all a made-up story why would a dozen people from the UAP department all whistle blow and collaborate the same information? How do we explain Jonathan Grey and all the others, none of which are the usual suspects? How do we explain the Intelligence Community Inspector General looking at the evidence and sighing a legal document? How do we explain the Senators looking at the evidence and saying David is Credible.
It would really help if we could see just what the 7+ hours of evidence he gave was. Apparently David went into great detail down to precise locations, dates, names and challenged Congress to look into what he said. Now if Congress said all he did was talk BS for 10mins without evidence that changes things. But that is not what is being reported. What is being reported is he provide extensive evidence and spoke for 7 to 11 hours. Which caused some of them to say he is credible. So what convinced them? If he is only speaking BS why was it reported he provide extensive evidence?
It doesn't seem to add up he is speaking pure BS and it doesn't seem to add up he is telling the truth. So the way I see it is; if you have a dozen high ranking military officials saying there is an unsanctioned illegal operation running without official oversight inside the department they are all based in. You don’t write it off as BS no matter how BS it sounds. You have to investegate to be sure and figure out what is really going off. I suspect there is some truth to this story like some sort of unsanctioned illegal operation testing out some sort of new technology. I suspect the truth will end up somewhere in between the two extremes of its all fake/all BS and its all Aliens. What ever it turns out to be, it needs looking into seriously and not dismissing out of hand which is dangerous and downright stupid thinking. Something odd is going off in the UAP department. Too many officials have come forward to whistle blow to just ignore all the complaints.
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LOL.
But they are not all ignoring him https://twitter.com/RepTimBurchett/status/1668631572554321921
"Witnesses will be brought in and we will hold hearings on UAPs. It's time. The American people can handle it." Congress Tim Burcheet
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"Senator Kirsten Gillibrand breaks her silence about the David Grusch story.
"We need to just look into whether there are rogue SAP programs that no one is providing oversight for,” says Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a New York Democrat who led the Senate’s April UAP hearing. “The goal for me will be to have a hearing on that at some point so that we can assess if these SAP’s actually exist.”
Gillibrand is sponsoring an amendment she hopes to attach to this year’s must-pass National Defense Authorization Act to mandate that no money can be spent on SAP’s unless it's been reported to Congress. “So if there are SAPs out there that are somehow outside of the normal chain of command and outside the normal appropriations process, they have to divulge that to Congress,” Gilibrand says."
As for whether she thinks there’s any veracity to the whistleblower’s claims? “I have no idea,” Gillibrand says. “So I'm going to do the work and analyze it and figure it out.”
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I still don't understand.
What does he have to lose by making the story up for cash?
It's been established that he's not revealing any secrets, therefore he's not really breaking any laws (it's not strictly illegal to make up a story about UFOs or aliens, then sell it to the press).
True - he testified to congress with pure heresay evidence, but heresay can't easily be falsified ergo; it's hugely unlikely that he's going to get busted over a heresay story which is vague, nonspecific and obscure as ****.
My "made up fake narrative"
So in your 180 IQ world where a bunch of people are claiming the US government is reverse engineering alien flying saucers and recovering aliens from the wreckage, I'm apparently propagating a "fake narrative" simply because I think the story is extremely unlikely to be true?
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For it to be classified, it would have to be in a recognised Pentagon project. His whole complaint is that the crash retrievals project is operating without the correct oversight. How do the data classification people say it is classified if it isn't in any of their documentation?So he can go on with Ross Coultard and start talking about aliens, spilling the beans on their secret reverse engineering project, recovering alien bodies from flying-saucers, and these highly secret, illegal DOD people will have no problem?
Yeah - that makes sense!!
I don't understand.
He went on with that Coultard geezer and talked about how the the government has been recovering aliens and alien bodies, and that people had been hurt or killed by them, how the hell is that not classified?
How has he been able to go on, out in the open and just talk about that happening, and it's all fine - and the DOD doesn't care...
It doesn't add up at all,
Something off the books can't be classified in the legal sense.
For those saying David is on a grift, he only went public recently because his name was leaked. He made his complaint to the IG in July 2022. His lawyer is still by his side representing his claim nearly a year later and is a former Inspector General themselves.
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That makes even less sense - because if that was the case, Grusch would have been killed by now - they'd have gotten rid of him, and he would already know that would happen if he spilled.
It doesn't make any sense, that you can have a program or project which is so secret it's beyond being a secret, but when you go on Newsnation and meet up with Ross for a nice open interview about the most important and staggering thing the human race has ever been involved with - yeah that's no problem, go right ahead....
It doesn't add up at all to any critical thought process.