Pentagon releases UFO footage

visibleman said:
But that doesn't explain how he is freely able to to talk about, allegedly, classified information to the media. Unless it isn't, or has been de-classified, but that wouldn't really explain the Government's 'we've got no idea' stance.
And the '...it can't be BS because people are vouching for him' doesn't particularly play as it's entirely plausible those involved could be getting something out of it.

The whole thing is whiffy as hell from every angle you look at it unless you opt for blind faith.
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Fully agree its whiffy as well. Nothing adds up. I have to ask though what are they getting out of this? Its not money and why risk jail time and there jobs over a BS story?
I can answer some of your post.

The Government's 'we've got no idea' stance.” Makes sense if David and the others are telling the truth that it’s an unauthorized Special Access Programme that has been Intentionally concealed from Congress and the Pentagon. If it is a illegal Special Access Programme then the people in charge of what is censored and the wider government won’t know anything about it. Hence the stance from them that they don’t know.

As for the UFO part. Congress passed a bill changing that law that includes the provision calling for UFO related document disclosure along with more recently making it legal for military personal to speak out without breaking disclosure rules. Legally he should be able to talk about UFO’s in generic terms. Congress have said they want UFO’s files declassified and the stigma to be removed.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if this increased subject promotion that the US government seems to be actively involved with, isn't to setup some new advanced technology.

I wonder if it might be something to do with a new energy propulsion? It would coincide with net zero, and the west trying to get away from relying on fossil fuels, which seems to be controlled by state's at least semi hostile to us. This would be the perfect time to "discover" it.
 
It's funny seeing the kind of people who make such nonsensical CT claims or "theories", are also the types who tend to be more extreme right or left leaning politically.
 
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Screeeech said:
“When it comes to the meat and potatoes of the claim, it's heresay end of - Grusch is just repeating things he heard from other people, he's never actually seen any of this stuff himself in the flesh.”
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It doesn’t matter if he hasn’t seen any of the stuff in the flesh. He was a senior military intelligence officer with high level access due to his role and had access to over 2000 classified special access programs. He was one of the most trusted former intelligence officials in the US defence and intelligence and had direct access to the data of those projects. Given his job role if he says he found evidence of an unauthorized Special Access Programme that has been intentionally concealed from Congress and the Pentagon and he says he has the evidence and files to prove it. You shouldn’t write him off as just “heresay end of” "he only repeating things other people heard.” He had access to the files and records to back up what he is saying. It was said he took those files as evidence and passed them onto Congress. You seem to be saying he is lying about that based on nothing but that fact you don't like what he is saying.

You’re acting like he didn’t have access to any of the UAP documents or data and so couldn’t have any evidence when we know he had full UAP and Special Access Programme document access.
In short your statement “he testified to congress with pure heresay evidence” appears to be yet another fake narrative you made up based on nothing but your imagination. You have no idea that statement it true and is what happened. Unless you know precisely what he did or did not do in the Congress meeting you shouldn't be making up fake statements that he had no evidence to hand over and only used pure heresy.



Screeeech said:
“Somebody backing up his story would go along the lines of "I also saw this" or "Yeah, I was there when we got sucked up into the alien spaceship" but nobody has.”
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You mean like the other whistle-blowers who are part of the complaint and the others like Johnathan Grey who we have been over many times now. What about the Inspector General who said he spoke to other staff in the UAP department are you going to ignore that as well like you have every other time it’s been pointed out to you.


Screeeech said:
“It is actually the same circle of people, involved over and over - I guarentee you £1000, the next big UFO story that comes out that has nothing to do with Grusch - those names will be involved with it somewhere, £1000.”
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As I said before I don’t see Ross Coultard as one of the same circle of BS artists you talked about before as he is not in that circle. That’s just another fake narrative you make up. Ross is a proper investigative journalist who has won five prestigious journalism awards. His broadcast television investigative journalism has also won top broadcast award. He uncovered one of the biggest-ever medical scandals in Australia. He won best investigative report. An expose of cronyism and impropriety in Australian Aboriginal Legal Services and well the list goes on and on. He is a real high end investigative journalist who is known for doing proper background checks and research into his articles. Ross Coultard isn’t one of the UFO nuts who publish BS. As for his book it approaches the subject from a pure rational point of view and like all his work is written from a serious investigative journalist point of view. Ross being involved is a positive sign as it means there has been proper background checks and research.

Ross's name doesn’t come up time and time again in the BS articles. He isn’t part of the complaint, whistle-blowers or group of people who brought this to Congress. He is only reporting on what the whistle-blowers did. Remove Ross Coultard and nothing changes. The whistle-blowers still put in the same legal complaint long before Ross Coultard got involved.



Screeeech said:
“As are the people who published the story in the Debrief (Leslie Kean Ralph Blumenthal, “
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We have already been over this, those are proper investigative journalists who have won many awards. Leslie Kean Ralph exposed that the DOD spent $22.5m on a secrete program to investigate UFOs which at the time was denied. It turned out to be true there was a secrete UFO program. She also covered wrongful convictions, the death penalty, and other criminal-justice issues basically a real investigative journalist. Like Ross she is known for her background checks and detailed background research.
 
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Pottsey said:
It doesn’t matter if he hasn’t seen any of the stuff in the flesh.
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Pottsey said:
In short your statement “he testified to congress with pure heresay evidence” appears to be yet another fake narrative you made up based on nothing but your imagination.
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It does matter,

And the actual evidence regarding the aliens, is all heresay - heresay means it's a statement which you heard from somebody else. For example - if I was at a bar, and I overheard somebody talking about something - if I presented that, it would be heresay.

It carries absolutely no weight whatsoever, nobody cares how much you want it to be true, heresay is heresay end of.

No fake narrative, on the subject of the alien claims, Grusch presents zero evidence other than heresay.
 
Screeeech said:
It does matter,

And the actual evidence regarding the aliens, is all heresay - heresay means it's a statement which you heard from somebody else. For example - if I was at a bar, and I overheard somebody talking about something - if I presented that, it would be heresay.

It carries absolutely no weight whatsoever, nobody cares how much you want it to be true, heresay is heresay end of.

No fake narrative, on the subject of the alien claims, Grusch presents zero evidence other than heresay.
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'Hearsay'.....try and get the spelling right!
 
To believe non primary source data such 2nd or 3rd hand reports is valid evidence, suggests someone has an agenda. Such claims should be dismissed outright unless accompanied by actual evidence. I’m not saying court of law type evidence, but decent evidence that meets simple balance of probability checks.

Pottsey falls into the trap of instantly believing until proven otherwise, but when presented with balance of probability evidence that sufficiently explains the phenomenon, it gets dismissed.

Those orbs for example, I believe they are human origin balloons or drones. They are always low res low definition images or videos and balance of probability dictates you take the most likely answer until the least likely is proven.
 
Screeeech said:
It carries absolutely no weight whatsoever, nobody cares how much you want it to be true, heresay is heresay end of.
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and back on the 'swore on oath' comment, if you go into court and swore on oath and come out with a load of hearsay nonsense it would get thrown out.
Hearsay means zero and Social Media such as this place is full of it.
 
How can something which doesn't exist be classified? I haven't a clue how congress works, so I am assuming certain military projects are legally withheld from congress? I also assume that even though the president is the commander and chief, there are also things withheld from him (legally?)
 
Thekwango said:
Good they released the body cam footage……of nothing.
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Wow, that was quick of the UAP program/Pentagon 'recovery' team..

Obviously with all the alien tech they have simply "reverse engineered", they had several ways of doing it
- Holographic area projection.. make it looks normal etc.. I've seen it in movies, so probably is a real thing as Hollywood have access to the same classified alien tech files to get inspiration from.
- They whizzed over at light speed, hoiking any remains/craft/aliens up via a teleport.. again, you don't think Star Trek just made that tech up did you?
- Alien laser tech was aimed at the body cam to manipulate the image, they also did the same to the eyes of the policeman as well.

It's all plausible and a mate of a mates friend's mothers cousins aunties nephew said he knows about that tech as he was a Janitor at Area 51 and mysteriously hasn't aged a bit since working there..

Am I doing it right?
 
Screeeech said:
Grusch presents zero evidence other than heresay.
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To you and I obviously, but he's presented it to the IG, or do you suspect that part of the story is fake too? If so what is actually going on do you think?

When the next whistleblower comes forward to corroborate David's story where will your mind go?
 
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