Pentagon releases UFO footage

I've not been very close to recent ongoings, can someone summarise what's been going on please? Recent major incidents/sightings/videos?

Some guy who used to work for the US government/military claims he heard some people in the government talking about a secret US project to recover and reverse engineer alien technology from crashed flying saucers, along with retrival of the aliens flying them. The US has apparently been doing this for years, reverse engineering the technology to gain an advantage over Russia.

This person did a TV interview, and also went to congress to tell the government about it, but there's no evidence other than heresay.
 
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“What does he have to lose by making the story up for cash?

It's been established that he's not revealing any secrets, therefore he's not really breaking any laws (it's not strictly illegal to make up a story about UFOs or aliens, then sell it to the press).”
I am not talking about the public interview but when he revealed secrets to Congress. It was reported he backed up his story with extensive details and evidence to Congress down to precise names, companies, dates, locations and challenged them to look into the details. It was reported he handed over 100’s of documents many officially sighed along with recordings. It was also reported and confirmed officially that multiple current staff working in the UAP department collaborated his story. Plus the other whistle-blowers confirmed the same information. It was reported he spent a long time digging though the classified records and speaking to UAP staff to gather evidence before he submitted his case.

So not only did he give up his high end Intelligence job so he could do this which is a pretty major loss. If the classified data he handed to Congress is all BS made up as you say then he and all the other staff which you seem to want to ignore should end up in jail. Given he is making no money from this and is in fact losing money from given up his Intelligence job I don't see what his and the other whistle blowers motivates are for lying. Why would all the other UAP staff collaborate his story if there is not something to the story?


“True - he testified to congress with pure heresay evidence”
Since when was it heresay evidence only? So, you have seen the evidence he submitted? Do you think everyone is lying about what was submitted and all the reports he submitted documents and recordings are lies? What about all the other UAP staff backing up his story how do you explain them away? Why would they get involved, risks there jobs and risk jail time to collaborate his story?


“So in your 180 IQ world where a bunch of people are claiming the US government is reverse engineering alien flying saucers and recovering aliens from the wreckage, I'm apparently propagating a "fake narrative" simply because I think the story is extremely unlikely to be true?”
There you go with the silly insults again which only weaken your position. Your fake narrative is that it’s all the usual people, same names when it’s not. As I said before “Yes external BSers and usually culprits are trying to tag themselves into this. But the actual whistle-blowers, leakers and the official complaint are not the usual suspects nor are they trying to make money from this.“ How do you explain that lots of current UAP staff have officially collaborated Davids story? Are you just going blank that out as it doesn’t fit your narrative?

As I said before without solid evidence its fine to think the story is extremely unlikely. I even said myself I think their real story is half way between the two sides of BS and Alien. Given the number of officials that have said there is an unauthorized Special Access Programme that is withholding classified information and concealing itself from Congress by being illegally off the books is something that needs to be looked into not dismissed, no matter how crazy it sounds.

If multiple officers inside the UAP department say and I paraphrase from the legal complaint "Direct knowledge that certain IC elements have purposely and intentionally withhold and/or concealed classified information from US Congress. Direct knowledge that IC elements to purposely and intentionally thwart legitimate oversight e.c.t" that's and the rest of it are a pretty serious complaints that you don't just make up for fun and go down and submit via official channels for a BS story. If this complaint is based on a BS story it will be jail time. So there must be some truth to this story. Perhaps not Aliens but someone diverting money into an unauthorized Special Access Programme for some sort of new technology that is being mistaken for Aliens. You don't want to believe its Aliens that fine, I am not convinced either. But surly you agree we shouldn't just completely demise this and throw everything out the window as BS. This need to be seriously investigated to find out why so many whistle-blowers are coming out of the UAP department and military, surly you can agree on that?
 
I've not been very close to recent ongoings, can someone summarise what's been going on please? Recent major incidents/sightings/videos?

Nothing, absolutely zero will come out of it.
Just some blokes saying they have UAPs which really means Alien craft.
Some of them have swore under oath so 100% true
 
I've not been very close to recent ongoings, can someone summarise what's been going on please? Recent major incidents/sightings/videos?
A large number of government officials are saying things like "Direct knowledge that certain IC elements have purposely and intentionally withhold and/or concealed classified information from US Congress. Direct knowledge that IC elements to purposely and intentionally thwart legitimate oversight e.c.t" and that this classified information is related to exotic none human technology which may or may not be Aliens. Its not just 1 person as Screeech says. Reports are these people handed over lots of evidence and spent 7+ hours going over this at Congress. There is an official legal complaint to read. Many of the staff from the official governments UAP/UFO department are reported to have collaborated the story.

Basically the government has a department that looks into UAPs/UFO's. The people inside this department are saying there is an illegal unauthorized Special Access Programme and have officially reported this to congress.
 
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So many things being reported! shame there's nothing that can actually be verified by anybody. :cry:

Since when was it heresay evidence only

When it comes to the meat and potatoes of the claim, it's heresay end of - Grusch is just repeating things he heard from other people, he's never actually seen any of this stuff himself in the flesh.


What about all the other UAP staff backing up his story how do you explain them away?

There aren't any people backing up his story.

There are a couple of people who have said he's a solid guy, but that's not backing up his story.

Somebody backing up his story would go along the lines of "I also saw this" or "Yeah, I was there when we got sucked up into the alien spaceship" but nobody has.

There you go with the silly insults again which only weaken your position. Your fake narrative is that it’s all the usual people, same names when it’s not. As I said before “Yes external BSers and usually culprits are trying to tag themselves into this. But the actual whistle-blowers, leakers and the official complaint are not the usual suspects nor are they trying to make money from this.“

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You know the person who did the interview with him, (Ross Coultard) is like a legit, absolute UFO nut and UFO author right? And has been involved in almost all of the UFO and alien claims stretching back ages now. As are the people who published the story in the Debrief (Leslie Kean Ralph Blumenthal, and a bunch of others)

It is actually the same circle of people, involved over and over - I guarentee you £1000, the next big UFO story that comes out that has nothing to do with Grusch - those names will be involved with it somewhere, £1000.
 
I've watched all the recent interviews and videos online. My understanding so far:

During WW2 scientists developed an electromagnetic laser weapon
This weapon was used to down the craft over roswell
Since then a secret shadow government have been reverse engineering the technology
Hidden base constructed by ratheon in the south pole able to detect and down any alien craft entering the earths atmosphere
This shadow government now have their own human built space craft (these are the ones recorded by the airforce pilots, tic-tac)
They also have their own army, airforce and navy; and have managed to create artificial avatar lifeforms which pilot the craft
Technology such as anti-gravity, ftl travel, free energy all fully understood
Whistleblowers with 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand reports have started to come forward to congress, who seem to be unwilling to properly investigate
During the next few weeks some people with 1st hand "hands on" evidence are going to come forward
During 2026 this shadow government wants to take over and run the world which is why people are starting to come forward
ALL aliens (there are hundreds of different species) are friendly, it's the humans which are the problem

JFK and Mariyln monroe were exectued as they knew too much about this secret operation

I may have missed a few key points, but you get the idea

Personally it sounds too far fetched, and like a bad storyline for a marvel movie

:edit: Oh, I did forget something. This secret government was responsible for two earthquakes in new zealand
 
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Some guy who used to work for the US government/military claims he heard some people in the government talking about a secret US project to recover and reverse engineer alien technology from crashed flying saucers, along with retrival of the aliens flying them. The US has apparently been doing this for years, reverse engineering the technology to gain an advantage over Russia.

This person did a TV interview, and also went to congress to tell the government about it, but there's no evidence other than heresay.

He used to work for the UAP and has documents etc relating to it all. Apparently he is very well known in the government etc..

Lets see if anything else comes of it all..
 
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Lets see if anything else comes of it all..
don't be getting your hopes up. much as i'd love to discover the US have a load of alien tech, we ain't finding that out via some whistleblower. non story in my opinion. even if what this fella was saying is 100% true, you and i will never find that out.
 
I've watched all the recent interviews and videos online. My understanding so far:

During WW2 scientists developed an electromagnetic laser weapon
This weapon was used to down the craft over roswell
Since then a secret shadow government have been reverse engineering the technology
Hidden base constructed by ratheon in the south pole able to detect and down any alien craft entering the earths atmosphere
This shadow government now have their own human built space craft (these are the ones recorded by the airforce pilots, tic-tac)
They also have their own army, airforce and navy; and have managed to create artificial avatar lifeforms which pilot the craft
Technology such as anti-gravity, ftl travel, free energy all fully understood
Whistleblowers with 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand reports have started to come forward to congress, who seem to be unwilling to properly investigate
During the next few weeks some people with 1st hand "hands on" evidence are going to come forward
During 2026 this shadow government wants to take over and run the world which is why people are starting to come forward
ALL aliens (there are hundreds of different species) are friendly, it's the humans which are the problem

JFK and Mariyln monroe were exectued as they knew too much about this secret operation

I may have missed a few key points, but you get the idea

Personally it sounds too far fetched, and like a bad storyline for a marvel movie

:edit: Oh, I did forget something. This secret government was responsible for two earthquakes in new zealand

This is all from the Stephen Greer hearing, this is nothing to do with David Grusch and David issued a statement distancing himself from Greer.

I give Grusch the benefit of the doubt while I don't trust Greer at all.

David Grusch held some of the highest clearances available, had access to over 2000 Special Access programs and was a member of the UAP taskforce inside the Pentagon. While Dr Greer is a former ER doctor with nothing more than a passion for the topic.
 
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I've watched all the recent interviews and videos online. My understanding so far:

During WW2 scientists developed an electromagnetic laser weapon
This weapon was used to down the craft over roswell
Since then a secret shadow government have been reverse engineering the technology
Hidden base constructed by ratheon in the south pole able to detect and down any alien craft entering the earths atmosphere
This shadow government now have their own human built space craft (these are the ones recorded by the airforce pilots, tic-tac)
They also have their own army, airforce and navy; and have managed to create artificial avatar lifeforms which pilot the craft
Technology such as anti-gravity, ftl travel, free energy all fully understood
Whistleblowers with 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand reports have started to come forward to congress, who seem to be unwilling to properly investigate
During the next few weeks some people with 1st hand "hands on" evidence are going to come forward
During 2026 this shadow government wants to take over and run the world which is why people are starting to come forward
ALL aliens (there are hundreds of different species) are friendly, it's the humans which are the problem

JFK and Mariyln monroe were exectued as they knew too much about this secret operation

I may have missed a few key points, but you get the idea

Personally it sounds too far fetched, and like a bad storyline for a marvel movie

:edit: Oh, I did forget something. This secret government was responsible for two earthquakes in new zealand
I know this is a comedy skit/satire, but I love the idea that the first thing the military would do is try to shoot down an advanced alien craft, thus establishing fairly hostile relations with a potentially superior force.

Mmm-hmm, sounds like a great plan.
 
There's a quote that springs to mind.

'Not only is the universe far stranger than we imagine, it's far stranger than we can imagine'

I can't remember who said it - I think either Arthur C. Clarke or Einstein.

Either way, I only posted it so when alien spacecraft start popping into existence all over Earths cities, I can come back here and say 'I told you so.....'

;)
 
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I know this is a comedy skit/satire, but I love the idea that the first thing the military would do is try to shoot down an advanced alien craft, thus establishing fairly hostile relations with a potentially superior force.

Mmm-hmm, sounds like a great plan.
because it's what were good at
 
I agree that this does not add up for the reasons you say. But I also have a problem with the BS point of view as that doesn't add up either.
But that doesn't explain how he is freely able to to talk about, allegedly, classified information to the media. Unless it isn't, or has been de-classified, but that wouldn't really explain the Government's 'we've got no idea' stance.
And the '...it can't be BS because people are vouching for him' doesn't particularly play as it's entirely plausible those involved could be getting something out of it.

The whole thing is whiffy as hell from every angle you look at it unless you opt for blind faith.

That makes even less sense - because if that was the case, Grusch would have been killed by now - they'd have gotten rid of him, and he would already know that would happen if he spilled.
That's only if you believe CT's and the rumours around past whistleblowers (Mark McCandlish etc). If it were a 'black project', and real, then you would assume the Government would just play it down which you could argue is what they're doing by saying they have no knowledge and letting it play out as if he's just another UFO kook.
 
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