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Not 100s of visits, if his last reply to me is to go by he's talking many millions.
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Not 100s of visits, if his last reply to me is to go by he's talking many millions.
He associated lots of magical things. Craft accelerated from 80,000ft to 20,000 in a second is particularly wonderful.
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On the subject of saying things:
I work with a Lawyer and two Solicitors and part of my job is gathering witness reports/evidence.
They are always gobsmacked that 5 people or more in the same room can see something different.
They will all turn up at court and confuse the hell out of a judge.
In the 80s/90s Nicky Campbell did a one off show.
They had 200 audience members under false pretenses and before the show started different incidents happened with the stage crew who were actors.
When the show started he told them all they weren't there for what they thought but to do with observation and how good they would be as reliable witnesses.
They were asked to vote on the different incidents and on one such incident that involved a big man, small man and woman only one person out of 200 got the answer correct - he voted 'The woman pushed the big man'. The rest of the audience voted 'The big man pushed the woman' except for several who said something different.
He then asked if they would all got to Court to give that statement and the vast majority said they would.
He then showed the film and 199 people were shocked.
People make very poor witnesses and can see whatever they want.
When I was younger for a laugh me and my mate would stand in the middle of Town, look up into the sky pointing at nothing but we'd convince some people there was something there and they would end up seeing it.
I remember being out with around 10 mates and I screamed and ran away from an old car in a field saying I saw a ghost and every one of my mates also saw it
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No one outside of the UFO community is too bothered about this. It went mainstream, this was their chance... and... no evidence.
So, I have technology analogous to magic, I'm so advanced - I can literally slip into different dimensions of time and space, yet when I get to earth I crash
Maybe I specced all my points into FTL and nothing else?
Imagine showing an F-35 to someone in the Battle of Hastings, oh but they also crash from time to time? Crazy.
How do we know it’s only the us?
For crash statistics, do we know how many craft they have galaxy wide?
Think it’s safe to say there are lots of unknowns, whether it’s an earth based craft or otherwise.
What is being claimed in some of these statements questions pretty much all of our understanding of physics, almost everything we thought we understood becomes wrong. It’s a literal a wipe and start again scenario for science if we take these sightings at face value.
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Not just him. So did the people directly working on the navy ships sensor platforms. Not just 1 ship but multiple ships as well as the other fighterjet pilots. According to the reports the people on the navy ships sensors reported the object without knowing about the fighterjet pilots and weapon officers experience with the object. That's why this event is seen as a major one as it was cross referenced by multiple separate first hand witness and multiple different sensor platforms.
To be clear and this is more for other people rather then yourself. I think UFO’s are more likely explained by local things.
If we want to speculate and assume aliens are visiting. Then my chain of thought would be they are not only visiting recently but have been visiting for over 100 years. Also, if we are going with Aliens are visiting that likely means the databases of reports are mostly real.
There is no central location for sighting reports and I believe human nature is that for every person that makes a report at least 5 would not have. So with one single database with over 200,000 entries and there are multiple database’s. I reached the estimated number of 1 million visits over 100+ years which as I said before involves a lot of guess work. If Alien are even visiting its more likely they have been here for 100’s of years rather than only 20 years.
So thats how I got to 1+ million flights and the 12 crashes or abandoned craft number came from what the whistle blower reported.
I am only speculating without accurate numbers. Hopefully that explains where I am coming from in saying UFO's are not crashing as badly as people are making out.
Guessing they must be relatively young or inexperienced if they are gobsmacked by that. It’s been relatively well known for years that witness interpretation of events can vary wildly.
Not sure what exactly you are referring too. The one radar system out of many that picked up something dropping from 80,000ft to 20,000?
Options:
1. That didn’t happen, it was an error.
2. Magical tick tack.
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but the problem is these super duper millions of years advanced technology UFOs are getting to Earth with the most advanced guiding systems we can't comprehend and then suddenly going "OMG who put that sign post there?" and crashing.
It's ridiculous.
I’d add a 3rd to that list: Illusory truth effect.
Essentially, when somebody sees or reports something vague or obscure over time as it gets repeated and talked about over and over.
Eventually it goes from being a vague report, into rock solid truth - just because it’s being talked about and repeated over and over.
It’s a factor in many conspiracy theories.
Illusory truth effect - Wikipedia
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Maybe the risk of moving between dimensions is that you may end up shifting into the side of a mountain!So, I have technology analogous to magic, I'm so advanced - I can literally slip into different dimensions of time and space, yet when I get to earth I crash
Maybe I specced all my points into FTL and nothing else?
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Many of these people either have no experience of working with any sort of tech/computer, or they do and conveniently forget how often stuff doesn't work properly/throws up bugs/has design flaws etc.
Most modern technology only half works.
I would be willing to bet that pretty much any ridiculous sensor anomaly is an error.
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All in their 50s and of course you know what I mean.
They are the ones who have to sort it all out so yes still gobsmacked after all these years which you should be when you see such variations.
I witnessed a car/motor scooter incident yesterday but no impact or anybody hurt and 4 people including me and my wife saw it differently (well me and the car driver agreed, I could hear every word they were both saying).
We just watched them arguing and when we walked away my wife had seen something totally different, she had somehow got another vehicle into the mix
Sorry on a short lunch break not got time to dig out links. From what I can tell the Brazil Air force/Navy takes UFO seriously and often try's to engage them. Brazil had the night of UFOs where fighter jets where launched and sent to intercept UFO's. Five bewildered pilots testified with a large number of ground witness's. The Brazilian Senate had an official hearing on UFO's before the recent USA hearing but as it wasnt in English it never made the English news. If you search Brazil based sources they have a very high amount of UFO reports proving its not just the USA.
If we go back to the USA Congress briefing not yesterday the one before with AARO they put up a map with UFO hotspots and there are a number of hotspots outside the USA that have a high level of reports. Just done a quick search and I don't see it. Perhaps someone else can pull the image off the briefing and post it?
This is all part of the wider picture. When you have people in the French military, US military, Brazil military and all the others saying the same thing. Its gets to the point where people should be going hang on that's a lot of reports perhaps there is something to this and we should investigate. While I not convinced its aliens I firmly believe something is happening and by something I don't mean all the nonsense about ducks/balloons some people like to pretend. When so many people world wide are reporting the same thing you have to question what is happening not just dismiss it out of hand.
Pretty much. One explanation is more than reasonable. The other questions the reality all of our technology is based on.
According to the reports it was not one radar system. It was multiple independent radar systems from different sources. There was the navy ship USS Princeton, navy ship USS Nimitz, all the fighter jets and the other ships in the area. The people working directly on the sensor systems on the navy ships are reporting the same as the fighter pilots. Which is why it needs looking into not dismissing out of hand.
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Will they be swearing under oath or just normal/meaningless swearing?