Pentagon releases UFO footage

[MookJong]

No one outside of the UFO community is too bothered about this. It went mainstream, this was their chance... and... no evidence.

Do you think this is just going to disappear out of the news cycle now? This is the first hearing, more are planned, the NDAA bill will pass in December, opening up a whole new angle of investigation. In parallel, Congress have created a panel to enable the declassification of existing evidence.

This wasn't a one and done...trust me

 

[Thekwango]

All in their 50s and of course you know what I mean.
They are the ones who have to sort it all out so yes still gobsmacked after all these years which you should be when you see such variations.

still surprised they are gobsmacked by that, it's part and parcel of their job and something they should be prepared for. i'd be more shocked if i heard a load of folk all agreeing on one incident they'd witnessed rather than being shocked/gobsmacked when they all reported different things!

 

[Pottsey]

but the problem is these super duper millions of years advanced technology UFOs are getting to Earth with the most advanced guiding systems we can't comprehend and then suddenly going "OMG who put that sign post there?" and crashing.
It's ridiculous.

I see it as ridiculous to think none of them would every crash. If we are going with the sightings are real then the vast majority well over 99% of them are getting by without crashing. We are talking 12 or less reported crashes in over 100 years. If they are real we don't even know if they are full craft or just unmanned probes. Flying though mostly empty space is completely different to flying though a planets atmosphere with gravity. If they are unmanned probes relaying on programming its not unexpected that some of them came across something unexpected and crash.

Its ridiculous to assume technolgly can be made flawless and never go wrong. Or that nothing unexpected will ever happen. No matter how safe any craft is made it will fail at some point either due to an internal component or external influence or due to pilot error.

 

[Pottsey]

Will they be swearing under oath or just normal/meaningless swearing?

Do you understand the difference and why it matters?

 

[Thekwango]

Most modern technology only half works.

wtf, really?!

 

[SexyGreyFox]

still surprised they are gobsmacked by that, it's part and parcel of their job and something they should be prepared for. i'd be more shocked if i heard a load of folk all agreeing on one incident they'd witnessed rather than being shocked/gobsmacked when they all reported different things!

I'm also gobsmacked every day when I deal with it before they are and I've been doing it 13 years.
I just find it unbelievable that humans, especially professionals, can all be so wide of the mark, so yes, have a go at me because I'm still shocked.

 

[jigger]

According to the reports it was not one radar system. It was multiple independent radar systems from different sources. There was the navy ship USS Princeton, navy ship USS Nimitz, all the fighter jets and the other ships in the area. The people working directly on the sensor systems on the navy ships are reporting the same as the fighter pilots. Which is why it needs looking into not dismissing out of hand.

I’ve read through a lot of these nonsense reports I might be getting mixed up.

Quick maths on 80k to 20k. Roughly 12 miles. Zero to 43,000mph and back to zero in a second. Or roughly an average speed of Mach 55 over 12 miles. People should think about that. It’s impossible on so many levels.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I see it as ridiculous to think none of them would every crash. If we are going with the sightings are real then the vast majority well over 99% of them are getting by without crashing. We are talking 12 or less reported crashes in over 100 years. If they are real we don't even know if they are full craft or just unmanned probes. Flying though mostly empty space is completely different to flying though a planets atmosphere with gravity. If they are unmanned probes relaying on programming its not unexpected that some of them came across something unexpected and crash.

Its ridiculous to assume technolgly can be made flawless and never go wrong. Or that nothing unexpected will ever happen. No matter how safe any craft is made it will fail at some point either due to an internal component or external influence or due to pilot error.

If it's Earth technology I 100% agree but Aliens who have millions of years on us then no.

 

[keyser van someone]

Do you understand the difference and why it matters?

You swear to God, if you believe in that sort of thing, atheists just promise to tell the truth. He swears people told him stuff.

Now what?

 

[Thekwango]

I'm also gobsmacked every day when I deal with it before they are and I've been doing it 13 years.
I just find it unbelievable that humans, especially professionals, can all be so wide of the mark, so yes, have a go at me because I'm still shocked.

it's not your job to make sense of and go into a courtroom, potentially, and argue for/against these statements - so you being gobsmacked is forgivable, an experienced professional though, i'm surprised about that.
i'm just quite surprised your legal team are still openly shocked/gobsmakced by the huge variation that can appear in witness statements. i'd have guessed they'd be well versed and desensitised to such things, but there you go - discover something new every day

also, and this is more a curiosity point for myself.........but how do you know these people you take statements from are so wide of the mark. surely at that stage what's true and not true, correct or incorrect would still be open to debate?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I’ve read through a lot of these nonsense reports I might be getting mixed up.

Quick maths on 80k to 20k. Roughly 12 miles. Zero to 43,000mph and back to zero in a second. Or roughly an average speed of Mach 55 over 12 miles. People should think about that. It’s impossible on so many levels.

Only impossible based on what we currently know..

 

[jigger]

Only impossible based on what we currently know..

Currently physics and maths says this is so far from possible it’s ridiculous.

Sure, all of humanity could be plebs who know nothing.

 

[Jono8]

wtf, really?!

Almost everything I own technology wise has had some sort of issue or design flaw or some other nonsense.

 

[Minusorange]

Sure, all of humanity could be plebs who know nothing.

This is far more likely

 

[Felon]

Currently physics and maths says this is so far from possible it’s ridiculous.

It always made me giggle, people claiming this tic-tac thing was whizzing around at 50k mph, in or around 1 bar of atmosphere or something.

Considering that we know pretty much everything there is to know down to the atomic level, all matter is made from atoms - at that point, things are held together by electrons and neutrons, with the strong nuclear force (what holds all matter together and keeps it stable).

So, if aliens have managed to construct some sort of meta-material which isn't made of atoms, which can withstand unimaginable amounts of force (such as flying through 1 bar atmosphere at 50k mph) - fine, but the burden of proof for that existing is absolutely stratospheric.

It would mean everything we know is wrong - which is fine in theory, but the more we look at nature the more we appear to be right. Keeping in the back of the mind, that tomorrows discovery may succeed in proving wrong - something we thought was right, however for me - when it comes to atomic forces and our understanding of matter - I'd say that's insanely unlikely.

 

[Kenai]

how do you know these people you take statements from are so wide of the mark

One would assume if you had three statements and they all say something totally different and contradictory, it's a fairly safe bet that at least 2 of them, if not all 3, are probably wide of the mark

 

[jigger]

This is far more likely

Very probably some of humanity, others are probably just not very well informed.

 

[Thekwango]

One would assume if you had three statements and they all say something totally different and contradictory, it's a fairly safe bet that at least 2 of them, if not all 3, are probably wide of the mark

where the general public are concerned, it's almost gauranteed all 3 will be wide of the mark!!

 

[Roar87]

It always made me giggle, people claiming this tic-tac thing was whizzing around at 50k mph, in or around 1 bar of atmosphere or something.

Considering that we know pretty much everything there is to know down to the atomic level, all matter is made from atoms - at that point, things are held together by electrons and neutrons, with the strong nuclear force (what holds all matter together and keeps it stable).

So, if aliens have managed to construct some sort of meta-material which isn't made of atoms, which can withstand unimaginable amounts of force (such as flying through 1 bar atmosphere at 50k mph) - fine, but the burden of proof for that existing is absolutely stratospheric.

It would mean everything we know is wrong - which is fine in theory, but the more we look at nature the more we appear to be right. Keeping in the back of the mind, that tomorrows discovery may succeed in proving wrong - something we thought was right, however for me - when it comes to atomic forces and our understanding of matter - I'd say that's insanely unlikely.

I mean if you simply bend space around you then none of that matters, you can move freely at whatever velocity you want because gravity and things like air resistance don't matter.

This is within the realms of theoretical physics. I'm not saying that is what is happening in the video, but you're making some weird assumption about a craft ignoring physics in the attempt to debunk something you don't like that I would suggest even you know doesn't need to be the case.

New Theory Suggests Bending Spacetime to Travel Faster Than Light

The speed of light is matter's fastest speed, but maybe humankind can cheat it. The Cherenkov Effect is a fascinating exception.

www.wondriumdaily.com

 

[jigger]

I mean if you simply bend space around you then none of that matters, you can move freely at whatever velocity you want because gravity and things like air resistance don't matter.

This is within the realms of theoretical physics. I'm not saying that is what is happening in the video, but you're making some weird assumption about a craft ignoring physics in the attempt to debunk something you don't like that I would suggest even you know doesn't need to be the case.

New Theory Suggests Bending Spacetime to Travel Faster Than Light

The speed of light is matter's fastest speed, but maybe humankind can cheat it. The Cherenkov Effect is a fascinating exception.

www.wondriumdaily.com

Of course. Space is simply bent around time, and matter fails to matter…

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