Pentagon releases UFO footage

Perhaps he is super interested, I don't really know as I don't know anything about him. What has that got to do with this thread any why did you feel the need to post a link to him and bring up ghosts?
Your the one who brought ghosts into this. I don't see what relevance that has. You seem to be suggesting its some foundation to the story as per your link. What foundation and what story? Are you just trying to derail the thread with more nonsense from Mick West? So far all you are doing is backing up my opinion that Mick is a BS artist after clicks and money and you blindly believe his nonsense. What has any of this got to do with the hearing?

First you bring up breads and aliens and now ghosts. You say "its interesting to me what you regard as what is isn't BS." which I am starting to wonder about you with what you are posting.

Think of Knapp as an interviewer/promoter for whistle blower, conspiracy theorists types.
 
Am I not allowed to talk about things? Sorry.

What things am I allowed to talk about?
Of course you are allowed to talk about things. Its just I have no idea what your point is or what it has to do with hearing or why you decided to quote me and talk about ghosts and the foundation of the story from Mick West in relation to the hearing. As far as I can see its just more made up nonsense from Mick West that you seem to believe.
 
Of course you are allowed to talk about things. Its just I have no idea what your point is or what it has to do with hearing or why you decided to quote me and talk about ghosts and the foundation of the story from Mick West in relation to the hearing. As far as I can see its just more made up nonsense from Mick West that you seem to believe.
Well Knapp wrote a book about UFOs and ghosts and just happens to be sitting behind Grusch at the hearing so I assume they know each other.

Not sure if we'll get to hear about ghosts aspect atm, they're focusing mostly on flying stuff first, then get around to floating stuff.
 
Well Knapp wrote a book about UFOs and ghosts and just happens to be sitting behind Grusch at the hearing so I assume they know each other.

Not sure if we'll get to hear about ghosts aspect atm, they're focusing mostly on flying stuff first, then get around to floating stuff.
Or you know a person that wrote a book about UFO’s and has a clear interest in the subject got to the UFO briefing nice and early and picked his seat near the front being one of the first in. Grush is a witness sitting in the witness area. He doesn’t control who sits in the public area behind him which was full of 1000's of people by the looks of it.

No we didn’t get to hear about ghosts as this was a serious briefing focused on facts, science and national security threats. The senators had proper hard evidence of UFO’s which is why they did this briefing. Ghosts on the other hand there is zero evidence for.
 
What exactly is Mick West making up?
He is a BS artiest using the same principles/methods that the UFOlogy BS artists use. All so he can make money and get paid. Like the UFO BS artists he decides what we wants to see and what his viewers expect to see then creates pure made up speculation to match that.

Both him and the UFOlogy BS artists target what their viewers expect to see so they can maximize their own money rather than look objectively with facts. That’s why Mick posts all that nonsense about Ghosts and people like Keyser and it looks like yourself lapped it up as its fits your view of its all just a joke and not serious. Mick is basically a echo chamber just like the other end we have the UFOlogy BS artists echo chamber.

Plenty of people have called out Mick West saying he has taken entire conversations out of context. Plus his debunks are often made up and don’t match the facts. But his fans believe it neither the less as it fits there viewpoint.

An example the Congress briefing not only confirmed the fighter jet was hit by ECM which completely invalidates Mick West so called debunk. It was also confirmed it wasn’t an isolated event and it happen multiple times. With the Congress man getting security clearance and going directly to the military base to see the classified high resolution photos and speak directly to the other pilots involved in the other events who also got hit by ECM. So much for Micks made up stuff about a far away plane or floating debris. Along with invalidating your duck nonsense idea.
 
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He is a BS artiest using the same principles/methods that the UFOlogy BS artists use. All so he can make money and get paid.

I’ll have another go,

What exactly has Mick West made up, as in - what lies has he told? Which specific thing has he said which is wrong?
 
That is always going to happen with a subject like this. Some people are making extra ordinary claims but providing zero evidence. I don't see this as any different from the Moon landings were faked crowd or 911 was an inside job and towers were bought down in controlled explosions. Actually those are more believable and they are totally not believable.
Maybe so but it's obvious something is going on, my best guess is there is a lot of money going missing, probably nothing to do with UAP and they wanna find out where it's going.
 
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Or you know a person that wrote a book about UFO’s and has a clear interest in the subject got to the UFO briefing nice and early and picked his seat near the front being one of the first in. Grush is a witness sitting in the witness area. He doesn’t control who sits in the public area behind him which was full of 1000's of people by the looks of it.

No we didn’t get to hear about ghosts as this was a serious briefing focused on facts, science and national security threats. The senators had proper hard evidence of UFO’s which is why they did this briefing. Ghosts on the other hand there is zero evidence for.
There isn't zero evidence for ghosts, we have a whole collection of eye witness accounts and blurry videos.

Why rule out one over the other? Both UFOs and ghosts featured in a book written by Knapp. I think we should push for a hearing on ghosts in Congress, it's about time we started paying more attention to these claims.
 
There isn't zero evidence for ghosts, we have a whole collection of eye witness accounts and blurry videos.

Why rule out one over the other? Both UFOs and ghosts featured in a book written by Knapp. I think we should push for a hearing on ghosts in Congress, it's about time we started paying more attention to these claims.


Make it about witchcraft and half the Republicans will be all over those hearings, got to stop these satanic practices.
 
From a year ago but this is how one tic-tac got myth busted:


So yeah, most of the blurry footage examples we've seen will be subject to the same scrutiny really. At least this is for those that are travelling in one direction and not rapidly changing direction like some of the others that pilots/radar etc report doing.
 
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There isn't zero evidence for ghosts, we have a whole collection of eye witness accounts and blurry videos.

Why rule out one over the other? Both UFOs and ghosts featured in a book written by Knapp. I think we should push for a hearing on ghosts in Congress, it's about time we started paying more attention to these claims.
Well the difference is UFOs are being picked up on top of the range military equipment world wide with high resolution photos and sensor equipment. Plus the UFO's have interfered and use Electronic Counter Measures against the military multiple times along with a number of near miss's in the air one reported as close at 50feet which shook up the pilot. That makes UFO's are rather more serious national security threat and more real then ghosts. Hence why they had the briefing. There are reports of Russian, France, US, Brazil as just some of the military's that have had engagements with UFOs. Hence why they are being treated as a serious national security threat. Which you would know if you bothered to watch any of the briefings instead of just dismissing it as a joke.

Perhaps if you didn't dismiss everything out of hand you know the difference.
 
Well the difference is UFOs are being picked up on top of the range military equipment world wide with high resolution photos and sensor equipment. Plus the UFO's have interfered and use Electronic Counter Measures against the military multiple times along with a number of near miss's in the air one reported as close at 50feet which shook up the pilot. That makes UFO's are rather more serious national security threat and more real then ghosts. Hence why they had the briefing. There are reports of Russian, France, US, Brazil as just some of the military's that have had engagements with UFOs. Hence why they are being treated as a serious national security threat. Which you would know if you bothered to watch any of the briefings instead of just dismissing it as a joke.

Perhaps if you didn't dismiss everything out of hand you know the difference.

Picking something up or taking a photo is one thing. Attaching claims of the extraordinary or supernatural to the photo as proof to those claims is something else entirely. Especially when the images undermine the claims.
 
the difference is UFOs are being picked up on top of the range military equipment world wide with high resolution photos

I guess that rules out all of the videos so far then. Can you please post links to those high res photos? Unless you mean blurry videos and a collection of unrelated high res photos about some other thing.

Plus the UFO's have interfered and use Electronic Counter Measures

How many reports do we have UFOs deploying ECMs?

Do the military ever do training exercises and use ECMs out in the open in their airspace? What would that look like if they did?

Perhaps if you didn't dismiss everything out of hand you know the difference.

I can only comment on the data so far. With lack of information things can be left interpret or misinterpret what might have actually happened.
 
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Interesting but, only time will tell....

Jeremy Corbell. This was about transparency, but they wouldn’t let us speak in a secret room. Lol

Those alien overlords are always ten steps ahead.
 
I guess that rules out all of the videos so far then. Can you please post links to those high res photos? Unless you mean blurry videos and a collection of unrelated high res photos about some other thing.
As I explained before the military have the high resolution data to go along with the events. Which you would know if you watched the briefing.
Congress confirmed they took field trips to the military bases to both view the classified data directly and interview the pilots. They confirmed there is radar footage to go along with the photo/video evidence.

Some snippets form what he said
“we did see the image. And we did meet with one member of the flight crew who took the image. The image was of something that I am not able to attach to any human capability either from the United States or from any of our adversaries And I’m somewhat informed on the matter having served on the armed services committee for seven years, having served on the committee that oversees DARPA and Advanced Technologies for several years.”

He also confirmed he got to see the radar sequence to go along with this.

Another key quote from the briefing
“If everyone can see the sensor and video data eyewitness, our national conversation would change. I urge us to put aside stigma and address the security and safety issue this topic represents.”

“How many reports do we have UFOs deploying ECMs?”
No idea they talked about two in detail and didn’t explain how many in total.


Do the military ever do training exercises and use ECMs out in the open in their airspace? What would that look like if they did?
This was explained in the briefing. No they do not. Any testing is restricted to test ranges of which none of the events took place near a test range. It is classed as an act of war to use ECM out in the open against military targets. ECM against the military is not something you joke around with. The fact the UFO did this shows they are technology based not some balloon or bird like you seem to want to pretend.
 
When you say "Another key quote from the briefing" do you mean "another claim that has been made"?

Why does the public need to tell the military how to run the military? Can they not be trusted to run the military? Who else would be better suited to run the military then the military?! Seems like a good fit.

Everyone knows the mandate for the military is a) check out what these weird blurry things are cheers b) save the planet/Team America.


"Not everyone was convinced by Grusch’s testimony. At times, he appeared less forthcoming under oath than he had been in media interviews.

In the interview with NewsNation in June, Grusch claimed the government had “very large, like a football-field kind of size” alien craft, while he told Le Parisien, a French newspaper, that the US had possession of a “bell-like craft” which Benito Mussolini’s government had recovered in northern Italy in 1933.

On Wednesday, he was reluctant to go into details on those claims, citing issues of security.

Garrett Graff, a journalist and historian who is writing a book on the government’s hunt for UFOs, tweeted: “Very interesting to me that Dave Grusch is unwilling to state and repeat under oath at the #UFOHearings the most explosive – and outlandish – of his claims from his NewsNation interview. He seems to be very carefully dancing around repeating them.”"
 
As I explained before the military have the high resolution data to go along with the events. Which you would know if you watched the briefing.
Congress confirmed they took field trips to the military bases to both view the classified data directly and interview the pilots. They confirmed there is radar footage to go along with the photo/video evidence.

Some snippets form what he said
“we did see the image. And we did meet with one member of the flight crew who took the image. The image was of something that I am not able to attach to any human capability either from the United States or from any of our adversaries And I’m somewhat informed on the matter having served on the armed services committee for seven years, having served on the committee that oversees DARPA and Advanced Technologies for several years.”

He also confirmed he got to see the radar sequence to go along with this.

Another key quote from the briefing
“If everyone can see the sensor and video data eyewitness, our national conversation would change. I urge us to put aside stigma and address the security and safety issue this topic represents.”


No idea they talked about two in detail and didn’t explain how many in total.



This was explained in the briefing. No they do not. Any testing is restricted to test ranges of which none of the events took place near a test range. It is classed as an act of war to use ECM out in the open against military targets. ECM against the military is not something you joke around with. The fact the UFO did this shows they are technology based not some balloon or bird like you seem to want to pretend.

Or people are mistaken about the events...

The three most probable explanations are, people are mistaken, its aliens or people have found a way to circumvent many of the principals of physics.

One of these explanations is much more probable than the two other.
 
When you say "Another key quote from the briefing" do you mean "another claim that has been made"?

Why does the public need to tell the military how to run the military? Can they not be trusted to run the military? Who else would be better suited to run the military then the military?! Seems like a good fit.

Everyone knows the mandate for the military is a) check out what these weird blurry things are cheers b) save the planet/Team America.


"Not everyone was convinced by Grusch’s testimony. At times, he appeared less forthcoming under oath than he had been in media interviews.

In the interview with NewsNation in June, Grusch claimed the government had “very large, like a football-field kind of size” alien craft, while he told Le Parisien, a French newspaper, that the US had possession of a “bell-like craft” which Benito Mussolini’s government had recovered in northern Italy in 1933.

On Wednesday, he was reluctant to go into details on those claims, citing issues of security.

Garrett Graff, a journalist and historian who is writing a book on the government’s hunt for UFOs, tweeted: “Very interesting to me that Dave Grusch is unwilling to state and repeat under oath at the #UFOHearings the most explosive – and outlandish – of his claims from his NewsNation interview. He seems to be very carefully dancing around repeating them.”"

Knapp and Corbell knowing how to squeeze all the juice.
 
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