Pentagon releases UFO footage

Maybe beyond help TBH. Grusch was a Major.
Yes Grusch was a Major in 2012 till 2016 then in 2016 he was promoted past Major, then he was promoted again and again until he hit the Max GS rank, very top of GS rank on a $175k wage.

I think you might be beyond help when your own link shows you are wrong and that he was promoted past Major.

So you think

"Between 2012 and 2016 Grush hits Major.

2016 Grush Promoted beyond Major and moves to National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) as Senior Intelligence Capabilities Integration Officer - cleared at TS/SCI level.

2019-2021-Grush Promoted again and moves to NRO’s representative

2021 onwards: Grush hits Max GS rank, very top of GS rank. He drafted the FY2023 National Defence Authorization Act. At this point he is the Intelligence equivalent well, well past Major.”


This is like those special videos you say you have that only you can see things that no one else can see and the pentagon document that you claim to have and only you have. Which you refuse to share. Then people wonder why I called you a conspiracy theorist.

Basically you cannot prove any of you made up claims and even the link you posted showed you are wrong. You posted a link that confirmed I am right.
 
Well you should.



Crazy theories?

My literal position on this, is that it's a hoax - not exactly far out is it?

People make up hoaxes and scams all the time, sometimes for money and attention, sometimes just for fun - this (David Grusch silliness) has all the telltale signs of a hoax, so I think it almost certainly is.

And all this talk of David Grusch being a super-duper mighty-morphin-mega-colonel-major-lord-admiral-XIIV doesn't mean squat, what matters is evidence - and there's bugger all of that.

So until that evidence turns up, I'm going to continue to guess that it's a hoax, and it's a good guess.
So lets get this right your “theory” appears to be along the lines of

You think Grusch gave up a $175k+ Intelligence Job. So that he can create a bunch of fake Intelligence photos, documentation, dates, locations, projects all linked to UFO’s. Then he gave all this data you say is fake to very high ranking people like Deputy Assistant security of defence of Intelligence, Generational Officer of Intelligence and multiple Inspector Generals. All people who have security clearance to look into what he is saying. All people who have looked into what he is saying and say the evidence is credible.

So somehow, he implanted enough fake evidence that he convinced all these very skilled and high ranked Intelligence officers and more its real.

He did this all as some sort of Hoax so that he can somehow make money out of UFO’s despite the fact over the past 3 years he has turned down paid for interviews, books and everything else that involves making money form UFO’s.

If that wasn’t bad enough apparently you think he gave up this $175k job and risks extensive jail time and risks losing his $1million+ pension all so we can pull a hoax for either fun or so he can make a tiny amount of money from UFO despite all the evidence he is not in this for the money. Even though any one of the people involved could work for 2 months and earn more money from the job then the entire years worth of money the UFO people make. You think them risking jail time, losing pensions and giving up $175k a year is a good guess for why they are pulling a UFO hoax to make a tiny amount of money from selling UFO storeys?

That is how you come across.

As for evidence the problem with evidence is when you don’t like it, you blank it out or ignore it as has been demonstrated time and time again. Just like you did when the ECM link and quote was provided half a dozen times. But you somehow never manged to see is so that evidence doesn't exist in your mind.
 
I think the fact we are seeing such a senate hearing on UFO/UAP on a subject usually laughed out of the room now being listened to at this level shows something is going on.

Whether it's what we think is going on or if it's something else, hopefully we'll find out at some point.
 
Well I find it all fascinating but I don’t have anywhere close to enough knowledge to form an opinion but great to listen to.
You should form one anyhow.. it's more fun than sitting on the fence :p

Then you can claim your free T-shirt. "I want to believe" or "I won't be deceived."
 
Yeah I abandoned the thread along time ago. Unfortunately certain topics invite certain behaviours.
Indeed. Some are trying to debate/post as fairly as is possible, then you’ve got a couple of big brain merchants trying to massage their own egos and fantasise about how clever they are when all they really have are insults and poor insults at that.
 
You should form one anyhow.. it's more fun than sitting on the fence :p

Then you can claim your free T-shirt. "I want to believe" or "I won't be deceived."


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In 2012 he was a US Air Force (USAF) at the rank of Major and more recently by 2021 he was promoted to GS-15 the military equivalent of a full-bird Colonel. GS-15 is the max possible rank for the GS scale, its the most senior role at GS scale which is what they use in the intelligence department he worked in. He used to be a major in 2012 and by 2021 he worked his way well past that.
I think everyone is just picking up on the fact that his military rank, major, is not the same nor comparable to his civil service pay scale (GS-15). Unfortunately, @jigger is quite correct in stating that his rank is major and he didn't didn't advance further than that.

The Pentagon never framed Grusch as insulting, yet again you are making stuff up.
Not directly although Sean Kirkpatrick (AARO) called the hearings insulting - https://thedebrief.org/director-of-...challenges-claims-made-in-recent-uap-hearing/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David...ommittee_Oversight_and_Accountability_Hearing, https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory...insulting-us-employees-top-pentagon-101795689.
 
Why is his rank relevant? Does being highly ranked mean he is more honest or something?
Partly but I think it’s more that the higher the rank the more likely to have access to ‘behind closed doors’ stuff. But it looks like there’s been a a bit of confusion as it appears the highest official military rank he achieved was Major but upon leaving the military he progressed up the food chain to reach a very high level grade of civil servant and some are taking this to equate to him having colonel level clearances, which I don’t think it does. GS levels are for civvies from what I understand of it.
 
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The higher up you are the more swearing on oath means like Trump & Johnson.

My point exactly, just because someone's a certain rank doesn't give them more credibility, ultimately all humans are fallible and susceptible to talking rubbish.

@Thekwango makes a good point about what the ranks have access to though, hadn't considered that.
 
My point exactly, just because someone's a certain rank doesn't give them more credibility, ultimately all humans are fallible and susceptible to talking rubbish.

@Thekwango makes a good point about what the ranks have access to though, hadn't considered that.
I’d personally be more likely to believe the word of a colonel over a private (within reason)
private diddums tells me he knows top brass are hiding something = well mmmmkay
Colonel Diddums tells me he knows top brass are hiding something = interesting, tell me more.
Why? We’ll in the first instance because I’d assume Colonel Diddums will have more access to the information needed to make this claim, also he has much more to lose by lying than Private Diddums. That’s my take on it anyway.

Caveat - of course anyone can lie as mentioned above when using 2 very high profile serial liars. I don’t think Grusch has been shown yet to be a serial liar.

Edit: for clarity I’m not saying I believe everything these chaps are saying but i certainly find it interesting enough and am interested to see where the congressional hearing goes and how ‘deep’ they are allowed to dig.
 
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